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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by AULIZ, May 28, 2016.

  1. Deutscher
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    from Germany

    :D
    Regards Harald
     
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  2. AULIZ
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    today I washed 2nd engine cylinderblock. I sanded orange colour increased little epoxy primer where needed, taped and painted.

    Im gonna use later model Mercury water pumps with 1936-37 truck 2row pulleys.
    Then I can install McCulloch supercharger + Cirello magneto (426cid)+ 8BA style timing cover.
    I can make 5" 2row crank pulley.

    Not easy to get all same line,.... but I have make some measurement and plan.

    Aulis

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  3. AULIZ
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    4hours and I have pumps ready. I pieced those, blowed with glass, cut neck shorter, machined pulleys inside, installed all, test measurements... Now pulleys are 10mm more near engine block than if I would install pulleys direct on shaft.

    I dont know if somebody has done this before, but now I have 1950-53 mercury pumps with 1936-37 truck 2row pulleys. Aftermarket 4.25"stroke crank has long "neck" so easy to make crank pulley. I use industrial pulley. maybe 4.5" OD or bigger if possible to use it.

    I dont have timing cover yet, so I cant make 426hemi magneto ready, but I suppose all is going OK.
    I need to make new bracket for idler and have to use Red power (obtibelt) or Hi-Power (gates). Those are better for this kind of use when v-belt is turned both way.

    a

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  4. patsurf
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    will the idler be adjustable ?-nice work!
     
  5. AULIZ
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    Idler bracket is last job this belt drive case.
    Just today I ordered from Italy SPB 150-2 solid pulley. I make hole and my friend have "keyway slicer".

    Today I made oil line plugs (brass = rear, black hardered steel = front) and installed those.
    Also started to install crank, rods and pistons.

    Problem with***** "China*****" connecting rods. All upper bushes are too small. those are not cylinderical.
    Pin is going 60% (over half way) when stack very strongly. When push it from another side, its going only very little and stack. I have adjustable reamer, but it´s not easy to get bushing cylinderical if bushing is like "hourglass". I did it very very carefully and get 4 rods ready + installed with pistons and rings in to cylinderblock. 6hours 4set installation.... I reclamate to*****.

    I called to my friends who bought those 2 another 304cid stroke kits. They try to push pin thru rod and same problem. stacks very strongly. I wonder when american race, street and hot rod -parts companies are stop to manufacture stuff in China. Everytime something problems. Sometimes OK, but mostly "russian quality".
    I had my street race 1968 nova Currie Enterprice 9" rear axle. They ordered couple of Years ring & pinion sets from china...... Yes, very much problems and they lost big money when customers didnt trust them anymore.
    My car ring and pinion broken in Sweden 2019 Scandianvian finals. front wheels 1meter high in start and You know what happens when suddenly it drop down..... Oilpan broken, lower arms.... Yes, we installed new US Gear pro ring and pinion, new oilpan and fixed arms. 24h and I was racing again. China*****, damage american manufacturers reputation.

    Aulis
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  6. Stogy
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    I honestly think they should do better QC on the processes and product coming out and make them get it right. Obviously they are not doing that...so who's to blame...you're right their reputation is being soiled and they're letting it happen...

    Glad you can find a way around it...
     
  7. AULIZ
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    You are 100% right. You can produce stuff in "banana countries" but You need to have waterproof production control. We have here rather much foreign people working in machinery, welding ...jobs. They are coming from Romania, Bulgaria, Belarus.... They earn here much more than homecountry, but their understanding about Quality is so different than we have here. This same problem is in Far east, China. Their qulity is not stable.

    When Japan was produce very much stuff to USA (50´s....) they had very high quality level. They were (and still are) proud what they are manufacture. Japan was best subcontracting country ever.

    I can fix those bushes, but it´s expensive if need to use professional machinery company help.
    I think***** need to react.

    Aulis
     
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  8. Zax
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    How long are you staying in the US?
     
  9. AHotRod
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    You're doing great!
     
  10. 3blapcam
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    Auliz... I preach Chinese garbage all the time... I think my close friends and colleagues are probably tired of hearing it! I'm sick and tired of having to fix Chinese quality***** ups... And just don't trust it all together.

    I was reading a thread the other day about building flatheads and I was surprised that***** cranks will fail under boost. I guess these guys were pushing the limit, but they described them as failing quickly!

    I was planning on putting together a 304 street engine for my next car, I will be watching this closely!
     
  11. AULIZ
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    Hello
    Sorry, I was not read jalopyjournal nearly week.
    Now back home. It was only +week short visit in US.
    Very expensive travel like that and very hard when travel time 14hours side....

    Edelbrock "big letter" heads + 501 levis + 2 x racing t-shirt for me.
    Cap + 2 t-shirt for Oskar. That was all what I bring

    Today I slowly continued engine project. 4 hours to fix 4 conn.rod upper journals.
    Made gasket and installed rear cover (under flywheel), nothing else.
    Today arrived rock auto shipments. Some stuff my 1965 GS buicks, 2 x 1,6" SS valve, lifter c-clips and 2702 camshaft gear for this engine.

    Tomorrow I get SPB 150-2 2-row v-belt pulley and 1949-53 timing cover.

    Maybe get installed flywheel, oilpump and rest of rods, pistons before weekend.

    Aulis

    nb. You´r correct. China quality is not stable and they never get "western quality manufacturer reputation".
    I made my reclamation (twice, before trip and yesterday) to*****. They are not answer. I promise, I kick their**** twice aweek as long as they pay that job , I fix 3 stroke kit rod journals.
     
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  12. 3blapcam
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    Good! I hope that works out for you and***** pulls through!!! I love and hate Speedway... love them because they have stuff in stock and it ships quickly, but hate that it's mostly Chinese GARBAGE.

    I believe you'll keep us updated on any communications with*****, but I really wish there was an affordable alternative!

    3blap.
     
  13. 19Eddy30
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    I watch / look @ your & other build's,
    There are Quite a few that are well built
    Detailed Ect, .
    I have same****** about quite a few manufacturers now "Quality"
    "" Just asking """, after One or Two times
    Any one dealing with issues with parts Recived , Manufacturer or company does not take care of issue,,, Most time they try to say it's You Not them. Look to another , In this case , seem you are a Die Hard F -H user they can be Expensive , 10-15 K why not look into having Custom or well known /manufacture company to make part ? *****t is low Quality performance Part , better then stock some time's.
    I also know you are not in states so shipping is not cheap or have to do a relay shipping , parts sent to friend here
    Then to you because certain companies will not ship overseas , Not trying to spend other's $$ my pockets are not so deep either, But if I need a 1,500-2 k crank , same with Rods , piston's I have made , when not off self Quality part's.
    Why not to save the Headache ,
    taken a chance that crank break's ect , taken out
    5-8k below heads . I do not know any thing about your Country Is there No one there that can tool up & make custom parts ?
     
  14. AULIZ
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    Hello
    You´re correct. Many companies products quality is lower than 10-20y ago.
    I think this kind of***** cast crank is enough OK for normal hot rod use. I know, problems are come thru if You have methanol FED or other racing combination and parts are made in "far east" as we say here.

    I wonder how they can make upper pushing like hourglass. If somebody is manufacturer, have all machines, rods look normal good H-profile stuff with ARP bolts and upper bushings are not cylinderical inside.... How it is possible to hone it like that. OK, my working in garage is free, it takes just little time, and I can fix those, but what about those who can´t do it or they are afraid to fix it...

    Next summer we spend 5-7 weekend in racetrack. Yesterday I send money to Alabama. I bought racecar, Oskar is driver and Im only and one mechanic. 3years I have try to find interesting drag race car and now I found it.
    Need to do something else than only hot rods, feels good to cut and change what to do.... I can left my 1965 GS buick to daily summercar use.

    Yesterday I drove to my old friend place. He was bore and hone another friends French Flathead cylinder block while I was in USA. He told that difference between normal flathead blocks and those French are big. Material tickness, overall quality is very much better. I didnt know that. I have used just those 59A blocks....

    Saturday morning 8.00. Now need to continue engine building. Oskar is come after few hours. I have big working list for him. His side of my garage is like after bomb attentat...
     
  15. 19Eddy30
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    Myself I have heard /know of the French block, I do not Really remember
    The history of , I do know it's a much heavy duty block, I think it was for military use ? I don't know quite how long it's been because time kind of flies but it seems like maybe five years ago somebody had found military surplus
    NEW in crate's blocks or complete that were for sale either here on the HAMB or Ford barn,,
    Also I do not know for sure if it came to be reproduced but Someone was advertising /marketing aftermarket flathead blocks.
     
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  16. AULIZ
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    Yes, if I remember right they still made those blocks 90´s. Its +20kg heavier than normal 59A, 8BA style blocks.

    Today rest of rod-piston sets installed and are tighten right torque.
    Also installed camgear. I decided to use 400jr cam.
    Oilpump and pick up test installed. Im sure if I have flywheel bolts. If not, Monday I need to buy those.
    Edelbrock heads looks OK, Old head studs UNF and UNC thread need to fix.

    also installed 1/2" plugs to waterpumps. There is extra hole those 49-53 waterpumps which need to plug when block
    is early pre 1948.

    Aulis
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  17. Tim_with_a_T
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    That’s a sweet oil pan!
     
  18. AULIZ
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    Thanks Tim.
    +10y ago I made those. Still few left. 2pc "semiready" and this one ready.
    Simple as builder himself.

    End of this month they have Ekens Gassers swapmeet in Stockholm Sweden.
    Oskar and I are drive there. I need to remember take those 2pc and sell there.
    Swedish are cool hot rodders even their money is more like "monopoly" money...
    :D

    Aulis
     
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  20. AULIZ
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    Hahaaa,.... That was good pics. Tre Kronor money is now smaller. Earlier sizes were bigger. Still value is weak. If I get Krowns, Euro value is too small..

    I remember "lakan" 1000kr, was huge "old size". Lakan means english bedsheet.
    It was huge size.

    AH



    Flathead sounds are like birds singing.... :

    1) coupe outside of garage , when painted stuff
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    2)Roadster yesterday
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  21. AULIZ
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    timingcover flywheel and oilpan installed.

    ah

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  22. Tim
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    Such a cool oil pan!
     
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  23. AULIZ
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    All 48pc old rod-coupe1731.jpg rod-coupe1732.jpg rod-coupe1733.jpg rod-coupe1734.jpg rod-coupe1735.jpg rod-coupe1736.jpg rod-coupe1737.jpg head studs are rebuilt today. Also fixed old original Howard Johnsson -lifters.
    Rest of time I used making measurements concern 426hemi magneto. I lathe it to fit this engine.
    Magnetos final position is 60mm lower than it is now in pics

    A
     
  24. 59sedandelivery
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    I LOVE to watch AULIZ work and progress!!!!!! And yes we have large problem with chinka junk being sent back to U.S..... We used to make and machine TOP quality parts here @geee...eeeee... now we cut the tarps and rinse the cosmoline off and hope for the best from arounf the world.....
     

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