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40 Ford P-up Build Thread

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by TomT, May 21, 2013.

  1. TomT
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    I got the driver door latch in - nice unit and everything looks fairly new including the springs so that’s good. But, I will have to remove the window riser to get the door latch out and the new one in. This will take some figuring out as I would like to keep the window in place. It’s always something isn’t it?!?!?
     
  2. Bandit Billy
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    Yes it is Tom. I don't know if you can get that latch out with the window in the door but I know someone who does know.
    When there's something weird,
    and it don't look good,
    who ya gonna call? @40FORDPU
     
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  3. TomT
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    I will reach out to him - thank you!

    I just realized that you are probably talking about Kube on the FB - yep he wrote the book - literally - on 40 fords and he was the first one I contacted. I an thinking (dangerous) that I can remove the window roll up mechanism, leave the gl*** in place once discoed from the gl*** and hold the gl*** up. I can then put in the new door latch and then the window riser mech. In my head it seems doable - we shall see!
     
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    your utube channel will pay for the parts!
     
  5. 40FORDPU
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    Unscrew the window crank mechanism, (scissor action) lower it down, put the window crank handle back on so you can rotate the arms with the rollers to a point where you can slide the gl*** with its channel off the mechanism (rollers).
    At this point you can remove the window crank mechanism entirely, or let it rest at the bottom of the door.
    You then can move by hand the gl*** up to the rolled up position in the door, taping it up or bracing it up with a stick.
    I, if at that point would just angle the gl*** out of the door and place it out of the way.
     
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  6. TomT
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    Thank you for this - once I am to the point of bracing the window in the rolled up position, Gabby here on the hamb has a pair of windshield suction cups I can use I will put them in place to keep the window from sliding down ….
     
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  7. Bandit Billy
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    I recently had to change out the motors on my Olds windows. I have a bunch of these clamps with rubber jaws. They hold the gl*** just fine.
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    Hi Tom,
    When I was wrestling with my Tudor’s gl*** I did the same thing.

    1. Raise gl*** high enough to locate and pop out rollers from gl*** bottom frame.
    2. Raise gl*** by hand to highest closed position.
    3. Secure gl***. I used several pieces of tape with a lot of gl*** contact, up and over the door frame and down the other side of the gl***.
    A couple of tapered shims like a hammer or axe handle wedge wrapped in duct tape stuck between the gl*** and weatherstrip fuzzy will also work. Or a thin rubber wedge will work also.
    4. Remove winder (not to be confused with window) mechanism. That’s the way we hillbilly’s talk.
    5. Replace door latch
    6. Re***emble winder (not window) and gl***.
    Being that you’re an experienced kind of guy: 30 minutes :D Go.
     
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  9. TomT
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    You guys are too much - thanks for all the info and support ….
     
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  10. TomT
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    Just an update - the truck has been running great, door gl*** went in smoothly finally, but the power steering setup and transmission lines have been giving me fits. I have been towed home more times by this truck than all my other cars combined.

    Right now the truck is over at Koppy’s shop here on the HAMB. Hopefully we will have figured out all the gremlins finally so I can get my wife behind the wheel - I don’t think she’s driven it more than 1/2 hour total and with it being towed home so many times she’s a bit nervous to drive it. But hopefully this is the last of these problems.

    Hey - that’s hot rodding and I totally get it. My wife does not understand why I will not give up on this truck. But if it does have another steering issue, a manual box will go in it.

    I will tell you one thing - should I ever build another car it will be pure hotrod with 3 pedals! Age (soon to be 76) be damned! Lol!
     
  11. 40FORDPU
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    I view Hot Rods as a "Love/Hate" relationship...if the love didn't win out most of the time, I'd of gotten out of this hobby years ago.
     
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    Tom,
    Sorry to hear you are having "The New Build Blues". That is a real pain in the backside! I hope you and Koppy get things worked out real soon. I know what you mean about the three pedals, too. I'm 77 and I still prefer them that way.
     
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  13. TomT
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    Thanks, gents - whatever needs done to get it right it will be done !
     
  14. TomT
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    Love- Hate - I love them all the time - I just hate them (and me) when they break! Lol!
     
  15. TomT
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    So - the truck-is, we believe, on the way to finally being roadworthy. Wifey drove it all over the neighborhood, I took it on a 140 mile round trip for an Early Ford V8 club breakfast. But I had a few issues after it came back from Koppy’s “for the last time” - NOT!

    A couple minor things that would have been fine for me but not with my wife being the principle driver: cancelling cam, the key ignition kept rotating clockwise every time I started it, I noticed two different steering/steering column noises, and the steering arm was barely above the scrub line as I had noticed the FE dropped a little bit more in the last 2 months exacerbating the steering arm scrub line issue. I also asked about excessive tire wear that I also noticed. So I suggested a 1/2” shim under the front spring which would lift the body/motor up to give me more scrub line clearance. Here’s what’s crazy - all the steering box bolts had loosened up producing the noise in my column from the teflon bushings and the column, having moved around a bit due to the loose bolts to hit the exhaust manifold. They were torqued down by Koppy not by old man me. So why?

    If you remember my ****** lines came loose twice dumping fluid all underneath and the steering pump also dumped its fluid twice and all the bushings, bolts, threaded bungs, nuts were all still soaked. Koppy found this out when he lowered the fe for the shim and every teflon/rubber bushing dripped fluids once undone. He cleaned everything as best he could and git everything as tight as we can get it but we are going to check everything after about 250 miles again to see what might have loosened up.This is the only possible reason as we see it. We also adjusted the 4-bar FE to get the camber back in line.

    Once the shim was in ride height up front was visibly improved, scrub line clearance also much improved making me breathe a lot easier (aka speed bumps!) !!!

    For the ride home there were no runs, no hits, no errors, and no parts or fluids left on the roadway!!!!! Lol!

    I will just keep at it until it’s right …..
     
  16. Bandit Billy
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    Ahh, the break in. Sort of like the orchestra tuning prior to the show but no one ever crashed and died tuning an oboe. Sounds like you are getting it!
     
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  17. TomT
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    Yep - hit some bad notes that’s for sure! But, better now than later ….
     

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