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Hot Rods 1 man engine swap on slopes drwy 63 Impala

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Eth727, Nov 12, 2025.

  1. RmK57
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    You’re going to need 3+ people to push it up the driveway without an engine if you roll it back . Can’t leave it blocking the sidewalk for long, bylaw would ticket it sooner than later.
     
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  2. 05snopro440
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    Not to mention that in a lot of places you can't have inoperable vehicles in the street, in some you can't even have them in the driveway.
     
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  3. banginona40
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    I'm sure anything can be done but for me I'd be looking for another location or clean out the garage so I could work in there!
     
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  4. 05snopro440
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    He will definitely have an oil spot!

    Last night after work I decided I would try to bring my Model A in the garage with my tractor by myself. I had a plan and it would have worked had the weight of the Model A front end not caused the rear of the tractor to lose traction and slide instead of going in the intended direction. I could have kept going and possibly screwed something up, but I pushed it back into the quonset to regroup before things went sideways.

    Like you say, weigh the consequences if things don't go as planned and don't be afraid to slow down and regroup. I had to learn that on my own, because my old man leans more to the side of pushing forward at all costs.
     
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  5. Dang. Would have loved to have had a spot that nice to work on growing up
     
  6. RmK57
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    Another thing you could do is turn the car around so it’s facing the street. Pull the engine using a plywood base. Shouldn’t be too much weight to control, plus you won’t have to lift the engine as high. That way you won’t have to deal pushing the car back up the driveway.
     
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  7. J. A. Miller
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    @lumpy 63 to the courtesy phone please...
     
  8. 05snopro440
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    Then you just have the engine stuck on the street. :)
     
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  9. Clydesdale
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    Tbh I’m lazy, so I’d be looking at doing as much as I could with the block still in the car.

    get the carb working right, set all your baselines right and see how she is. Then go for a top end rebuild from there.

    worst case you do gotta pull the lot but at least you’d have fresh heads that can be pulled and stored worry free.
     
  10. If you have to pull the engine in the future it's fine. But one of the other cars is going to have to be outside for a few days. I would get another engine, have it rebuilt and waiting. Engine hoist in the garage, hood off the car, drive in 1/2 way. Did it this way on my '41 at my moms house, did a rear end repair in my more slanted driveway here (I used a tow strap to the pole in front of the dryer). Your main problem is the fake concrete pavers might crack with the metal wheel of a hoist or jack. You need to put plywood down first if you plan to work in the driveway.
     
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  11. 57JoeFoMoPar
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    If you know what you're doing, you can be crafty and resourceful with the equipment and cir***stances you have. It's when you don't know what you're doing, AND you have no tools or equipment, that you can really get into trouble,

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    FWIW, here is a picture of a much younger me (full of life and a great head of hair) building a 355 SBC in my mom's garage. This was a 2 car garage in South Plainfield, NJ, that had 2 incandescent light bulbs and one 2-prong outlet. I had some basic hand tools that were p***ed down from deceased relatives, an oilless 15 gallon Craftsman air compressor, a grinder, a drill, a Chinese engine hoist, and a Lincoln flux-core MIG welder from Home Depot. Any time I had to weld something, I had to run an extension cord from the kitchen in the house out to the garage under the door. There was no heat or insulation, and I bought a bullet heater for the winter that would make it plenty warm to work, but also required me to open the door for oxygen every now and again.

    This car got built in that garage in those cir***stances.

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    Again, the concern for this scenario is less the garage and more for the individual. Frankly, there is no guarantee this engine even needs to come out of the car. I'm of the camp that says "go for it" as well, but that's within reason. Sometimes you need to take a step back and reevaluate before you go just pulling everything apart
     
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  12. cfmvw
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    I've used a comealong hooked to an overhead beam to hoist an engine, and later with the aid of my tractor. Years ago my uncle rented an upstairs apartment, and got the use of an attached barn to park his Camaro. He made a trapdoor in the loft floor and hoisted the engine out of the engine bay and up into the loft to rebuild.

    No matter how you look at it, pulling the engine out will be a major undertaking; not hard, just messy and time-consuming. Figuring out exactly what needs to be done to the engine could save you a lot of unnecessary work.
     
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  13. RmK57
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    It’s an sbc…throw it in a wheelbarrow.
     
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  14. Sharpone
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    Man that’s going to be one fast wheelbarrow :rolleyes:
    Dan
     
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  15. I guess parking brakes and wheel chocks stop working when pulling an engine
     
  16. Eth727
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    Hey guys it’s a 2 car garage from 1964. It’s shorter than modern garages. The 60 is the garage queen. I might have 2 feet extra behind her. The left side is the wife’s Tesla area. The whole left side can’t be blocked. I forgot to mention I do have the street but they street sweeping every 2 months. No cars can be on the street on street sweep day. Oh I also have a truck that I can put an engine in. As far as the bumps on the pavers . I can make ramp using concrete so the wheels of the hoist can roll over easier. Maybe modify the wheels on the hoist like at junkyards?
     
  17. Budget36
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    Pretty soon someone will tell us how they pulled an engine with nothing but the shoe strings out of their boots, in the snow.
    But the next post will be how someone didn’t have shoe strings, so tied their socks together, and was in a hurricane.
    Kinda the “walking to school in the snow, uphill, both ways”.

    And the engine needs to be rebuilt or replaced because?
     
  18. GlassThamesDoug
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    Zoning might prohibit this activity. Sure as heck, don't spill antifreeze or oil.

    Only takes one neighbor .... to ruin a good day.
     
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  19. 34 5W Paul
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    Please post the "****ysis" data here. Gazillion years of relevant experience on this board. Need info.
    My opinion -
    Keep it simple. Don't pull an engine that needs minor things. Don't tear down an engine that needs a PCV or valve stem seals. If it smokes, it could be one of a host of relatively minor issues. I have a fresh build that was acting like it had bad valve stem seals. It didn't. It was ****ing oil past the PCV valve into the the intake. I fixed it with a catch can. You paid almost $400 for an ****ysis and an opinion. It's short on the first part and long on the second.
    Please post the "****ysis" compression and leakdown information here.
    When I was 16 I had an ex CHP car that smoked like a freight train. I did a re ring and bearing job with the engine in the car; had the heads rebuilt at a shop. Ran excellent after that.

    Please post the ****ysis data.

    Did I miss where you posted the ****ysis data in this thread that you paid $387 for?
     
  20. DDDenny
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    Sounds like you have it under control, what more do you need from us?

     
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  21. ckh
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  22. Ziggster
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    Looking forward to seeing how it goes.
     
  23. swade41
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    Who's taking photos of themselves pulling engines by themselves ????
    Go back to my previous post and it explains how to do it, everybody is hung up on moving the engine hoist and it shows how many people have never pulled an engine on a slant before.
    The engine hoist doesn't move, the car does ! Put wheel chocks behind front tires, tie the front bumper to the car in the garage if you're that worried, jack up the rear end shove something under the rear tires and jack stands under the frame. The higher you jack it up the more slant and chance of jack stands tipping you get, so do bare minimum. Go under car and unbolt the flex plate from converter, put a ratchet strap under trans to frame to support Trans once it's separated from engine.
    Let it back down on all 4 wheels, disconnect wires, hoses, throttle linkage, etc. on engine, hook up engine hoist, chock engine hoist, put car in neutral. Jack up on engine as far as it'll go before interfering, back one wheel chock up a couple inches, now wiggle remaining wheel chock back until car rolls back into first wheel chock. Jack up engine more, repeat wheel chock, if he has a helper put the brake on then slide wheel chock back and ease off brake until it rests on chock.
    Repeat that until the engine is out, make sure engine hoist doesn't tilt forward, by adding weight on back, when the hoist is high, once clear lower engine immediately.
    That's it, done finished !
    I've done this several times, my garage floor ain't no joke, you better not drop a socket or anything over here because it'll roll away so fast you'll never find it. If you notice in the accompanying photo the wheel chocks under the 57 pickup because there's no drive shaft in it.
    It definitely can be done, use your head on safety, I use a chain fall here but it's the same, the engine only goes up and down, vehicle moves.

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    Using the chain fall to spin the 57 180 degrees without it rolling away down hill

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    a young me with the wife in the back yard.
    Has a wheel chock to jeep it from rolling down the slope
    Not just engines, but cabs and heavy flatbeds
     
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  25. 19Eddy30
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    Do not know all the Op has access to,
    By pic ,
    I have experiencing and think outside the Norm , I have used chains 4x4 cables
    Ropes , door james of House , garage rafters ,, Ect
    The pic below was a road call I did with No help a few 100 miles away ,
    I have even done things like this with
    2 10 foot folding ladders ....
    The OP Challenge is the slope & not sounding like op has too much experience doing things like most of us that have posted & have done.

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  26. Tow Truck Tom
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    @ekimineiribo If you look at my avatar I am on the left. The spot where the blue Chevy sits is where I had my 57 210. I pulled the 283 from it and dropped it into my 55 Nomad sitting next to it.
    My partner there showed up as I was bolting the U joint to the diff yoke. He was all upset thar I hadn't told Him that it was time. He wanted help.
    l however, felt it would be easier to just do it myself. Anyhow you see the slope.
    My Mom wasn't around that day so no picture. Sorry
     
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  27. Dang.
    5 pages just to figure out if you can yank an old engine out.
    These 2-16 year olds (the ones on the left did the work) had this 6 out in less than an hour. Including tearing it down to this point and putting the tools back in the shop. Radiator was already gone. So that probably saved em 15 minutes
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    Less time than some of us have probably invested in this thread.
     
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  28. swade41
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    You should slow down, quit chomping at the bit to reply and read my post again.
    Why would the drive shaft need disconnected if he's pulling the engine, I said tether the car if you're worried about it, place something under rear tires along with jack stands while disconnecting the torque converter. I could go on and on but hopefully you've went back and read my comment again.
    As far as my garage floor goes, I said it's pitched 4 degrees, it drops 4.5 inches over 100 inches in length. I don't believe the o.
    p. measured his, so again let's not make up stuff to suit your needs.
    Watch this video starting at the 4 minute mark of how fast my car rolls out of the garage, WHILE RIDING THE BRAKE, when I put it in neutral. I said my garage floor is no joke and I mean it.

     
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  29. twenty8
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    I'm still working on growing up....:D
     

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