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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by J.Ukrop, Sep 7, 2020.

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  1. J.Ukrop
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    All great advice. Thanks everyone. I did a whole lot of thinking about what to do next on the brake front. I scrubbed the shoes, hit them with brake cleaner, and then let them warm up by the bank of water heaters. They got a little bit better, but were still soaked all the way through—way worse than the first time around. So, I did what any hot rodder would do: I took to the internet to find a creative solution. From what I had gathered, that solution was to buy an old toaster oven so I could bake the shoes.

    Yesterday, I sent out inquiries about five different ovens throughout the city. I laughed at the thought of a $10, grease-splattered-and-heavily seasoned example with a lazy door sitting on my fire escape loaded with a pair of 1940s brake shoes. Within a matter of minutes, noxious smoke would billow out into the atmosphere like some sort of small-scale nuclear meltdown. Would it work? Your guess is as good as mine.

    Then I took a step back. This is a car where I've done everything in my power not to take any shortcuts. Now isn't the time to start. So, with that, I called up Jeff at Moose Motors. He'll be re-lining and arcing the shoes for my drums, getting them ready to stop better than ever.
     
  2. RodStRace
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    Good on ya.
    A light soak can be cleaned off, but brakes are one area where it doesn't pay to cut corners.
    For this next round, plug in all the hydraulics, bleed without the shoes and make sure. Not a step normally taken, but this seems to be an issue for you so might as well confirm before posibly making more mess and expense.
    You might rig up a C-clamp to hold the cylinder.
     
  3. Dick Stevens
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    I would bleed the brakes with the old shoes and when satisfied that they are good to go replace the shoes with the new ones.
     
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    A few hard stops will cook it out. You live in a city made out of steep hills.
     
  5. Right move.
     
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    Thanks everyone! I'll keep you posted on the brake progress as it unfolds. Last night, I walked to North Beach after work and picked up some hardware for the wooden seat filler piece.
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    The carriage bolts will eventually get painted black and disappear, but they're kind of fun in (almost) chrome. This piece serves no real function other than to make the seat riser look more finished. I'll have more to say about it once I receive my latest eBay purchase. Man, I wish I could find an old chrome upper dash rail.
     
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    Tonight's progress was made not in the garage, but at the kitchen table. Using wiring diagrams of yesteryear—plus internet resources—I came up with my ignition circuit. If I have all the right parts in stock, I'll be wiring it up this weekend. Crazy that I made that 'banger wiring diagram five years ago while sitting at my kitchen table. Lots of miles on that setup. Hopefully the new one will do the same.
     
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    udden, udden or is it varoom, Varoom....
    good job sparkie
     
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    Man I tell ya I’ve been seeing more and more powder coated “chrome” lately that reads like worn old chrome. Will it p*** for new chrome? No, but I’ve seen it mixed in with the old and havnt been able to tell which is which at a first look.

    that wooden seat riser seem like a good spot for a phone charger hidden under a chrome knob. Or maybe just a change holding slot.
     
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    Some examples. I’m thinking just like real chrome the more prep you do the better it can look. IMG_2617.jpeg IMG_2618.jpeg IMG_2619.jpeg IMG_2620.jpeg ive been keeping an eye out for a chrome one already so now I’ll look for two ;)
     
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    Hope that car has a good alternator that Federal Q siren draws at least 100 amps. siren.jpeg
     
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    I have lots of updates, notes, and thank yous to catch up on and I promise I'll be back with those soon. In the meantime, I think you'll all appreciate this short video from down in the garage.
     
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    Starter/battery sounds good.
    I'll wait patiently for the next update.
     
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    Oooohhh. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Just needs spark and fuel and it's GO time Joey!!!!!
     
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    Thank you! Tonight's the night for a small update or two.

    Thanks, Jeff! We're inching forward.

    Hahaha you nailed it. No gas yet!
     
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    Tonight's post starts with a huge thank you to @e1956v. Speedometer.jpg
    Not only did he custom-make the perfect speedometer cable, but he also ***embled the greatest care package with vintage Stewart-Warner literature, a Colorado Springs car club shirt (which I've already worn for a night on the town), and a thoughtful note. If you have any speedometer needs, Elwood is your guy. Installation pictures to come.
     
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    As I think of my wiring, I started playing with horn position. I still need to make a stronger bracket, but I'm liking the central placement. At this point, it's actually been moved higher up to help make pouring oil a little easier.
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    And speaking of oil, I recently scored this NOS breather/PCV tube. Most I see are 8BA—neat to come across a 59AB one. No immediate need for it, but I want to hang on to it for future use.
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    Over the weekend, I spent Saturday hanging with friends and hunting down tools and parts. I knew a big storm was coming, so I took the opportunity to ride the bike. I finally took a picture of this nice home on 3rd Avenue built in the International Style.
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    If you look closely, you'll see my biggest purchase: a saw and miter box. I have to cut two custom body blocks, and I believe that will be just the tool for the job.

    On Sunday, I started my day at the Hunters Point motorcycle swap meet. My buddy Jason's '35 Phaeton was looking great, per usual.
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    I wanted to buy this Panhead. IMG_3484.jpg No money and no time made it way easier to resist.
     
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    I have a few more updates, but I'll end with this question:

    Are you even building a street rod if you don't build it in the street?
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    The street lamps do a pretty good job lighting the way, too.
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    That does it for now. More tomorrow!
     
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    Horn position as shown, plus height should look great! At the raised position all those firewall beads are going to intersect at the horn!
     
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    Why do you have to pour oil in it? Does it make a bubbley beep?
     
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    Where it’s located in the photo is directly over the oil fill on the flathead
     
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    Joey just a FYI, originally attached my horn, with insulator, to the firewall and the horn didn't sound right - really tinny. So built a really simple offset bracket with two pieces of 3/4" angle. Getting it a little farther out from the firewall made a big difference in the sound.
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    Thanks Tim.
     
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    I’m considering a similar horn for my model A and while I’ve thought of places it “could” go I never once considered how mounting could effect sound. That’s a great tip
     
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    Tim if you are looking at similar horns.....and Joey, can't tell exactly what size yours is - but mine actually has a new 12 volt horn inside of the old Moto-Vox housing. So if you have one that doesn't work or quits working, it's a pretty easy fix. It has a Harley Springer 12 volt horn (1942 to 1957 Panhead/Knucklehead. OE #69001-42....a ton of repros out there in 6 and 12 volt) and fits perfectly inside the body/case of this type/size horn. It has the same center case bolt that keeps the new innards nice and tight and the same wiring terminals. My original 6v Moto-Vox was hooked to 12 volts for years and it finally took a dump. Couldn't revive it, so took some measurements and found the Springer horn to be an exact fit in every way. You can't see any trace of the new horn. Un-crimping and re-crimping the grill from the case is kind of a delicate procedure as the grill is pretty light weight....same thing as a bezel on a Stewart Warner gauge.
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  29. Six Ball
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    It was an attempt at humor. Guess I need more practice. But a bubbley beep might be fun.
     
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    Glug glug!

    that was my first guess but wasn’t sure. Humor in text is always a gamble lol

    that horn is absolutely gorgeous!
     
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