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Projects Prefect / Willys /Kadett/Thames Gasser Build.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Mitchell Rish, Jan 6, 2015.

  1. Mitchell Rish
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    Mitchell Rish
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    from Houston MS

    IMG_5598.jpeg IMG_5599.jpeg IMG_5600.jpeg IMG_5601.jpeg Ok tubes equalized at collector. Had to torch weld/braze. Used mild steel. As in soft tie wire like we always did for used /less tha perfectly clean tubing. Painted them while hot. I doubt it will come off. Lol] IMG_5601.jpeg
     
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  2. Mitchell Rish
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    Other header complete. ( back 3 ) collector is not fully welded but is in correct position. have two welds I need to burn back in deeper.
    overall pleased. As it turns out the primaries are pretty close in length within an inch on all but one -2 inches. This set of tubes was super contaminated. So I had to turn the heat/flame up a little more. Need to clean up and air test. then paint.
    Again considering it’s two sets of headers making one I think they turned out decent-considering I did put collectors back on. IMG_5635.jpeg IMG_5634.jpeg IMG_5633.jpeg
     
  3. Mitchell Rish
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    Finished the headers up today. Cleaned up and inspected. Finished the welds on the collector. Purged and rewelded two tubes. Then heated and painted while hot so it sticks.
    pretty pleased. Clears everything and even looks pretty symmetrical. Looks correct under the front cap.
    IMG_5651.jpeg IMG_5652.jpeg IMG_5653.jpeg IMG_5654.jpeg
     
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  4. Mitchell Rish
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    Front plates and mounts completed. Need to be belt sanded and cleaned up and painted. I will also weld a perimeter edge/using 3/4 flat bar. Will guarantee no lateral for and aft.
    Rear set is next. They will be a similar set up. The perimeter will be reinforced with flat bar as well. IMG_5673.jpeg IMG_5674.jpeg
     
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  5. Outback
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    Thanks for keeping us updated, well done for persisting on these cars. They are looking good!
     
  6. Mitchell Rish
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    Thanks for the compliments. Build all you can while you can.
     
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  7. wrenchbender
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    So I must have missed out on a lot of details on your kadette I recently picked up a 66 kadette and after I get my fuel coupe put together I’ll start on that however what engine and trans are you using in it and what front suspension is in it I see the back half has coil overs and nice work on the tin you built for it I’m asking so I can be thinking about how will build mine in the future
     
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  8. Mitchell Rish
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    Mitchell Rish
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    Front axle is a 4 inch drop. It’s a speed way/Rons Pope set up don’t remember which. I recommend Ron as he can narrow to any width. As can Bill at Wack Axle. He did the Axle for the Up coming change to the Thames.
    As to power it’s all on engine plates /mid/front and rear. Reason is once trans centerline and drive angles are established the engine with correct plate can be changed with ease. Proof. When Mick was alive it Had 392 hilborn injected and a clutch turbo.A guy came in from nowhere and bought out my entire heard of elephants/ even my Donavan at my price.So it went on hold. Bill Johnston decided he wanted to race again and put his BBC injected into it /then changed to sbc injected. Bill p***ed before he finished it.
    Wes Gray is now the care taker. And he is leaving as a sbc hilborn /glide set up.
    My recommendation is set drive line /trans to Rearend and use mid plates set to you angles snd ch***is. And you never have to change much.
    Steering is the stock Opel rack /set up as a cross steer. But this is a tube ch***is. The stock ch***is is Probobly capable of a sbc but the front suspension will have to go. The headers for the hemi were sold when that idea changed. Mick had 60 hours in that set. They were unbelievable. BBC /sbc headers are easy. To kill bottom end zoomies do the job and are usually cheaper. Mick did full collectors etc in hemi and it was labor intensive.
    Go back to the front part of the build and you will see the details.
    Actually I deleted those photos so I put a few of them back up here.
     
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  9. Mitchell Rish
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    Here are the pics from that era.
    slso this Round of changes will include hand controls for Wes IMG_5694.png IMG_5697.png IMG_5699.png IMG_5698.png IMG_5696.png IMG_5702.png
     
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  10. Mitchell Rish
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    Notice how other than front motor plate nothing changed. Also for the record the little round amber turn signal lenses hsve 1964 on them.
     
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  11. Mitchell Rish
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    The prefect is set up the same way. It was actually fitted for a hemi as well.
     
  12. Mitchell Rish
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    IMG_5693.jpeg Ok work on Prefect today. Rear mid- plate for six is completely welded and fitted. Notice I trimmed the extra **** off of it. I will weld flat feet to the front. And drill for the gusseted tabs. IMG_5690.jpeg IMG_5689.jpeg
     
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  14. wrenchbender
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    Thanks for the info and the pics I too will probly build a ch***is as it will be much easier in the long run thanks for the pics as well I looked back and couldn’t seem to find any now I know why lol the kadette is awesome now back to the show sorry for the interruption lol carry on with the prefect as I have one of those too lol
     
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  15. Mitchell Rish
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    Rear /mid plate tabs drilled and tacked into place. I’ll finish welding when I pull the engine for pan swap and clean up.
    Everything will get a clean up and final coat of paint. Intact welded the washers in place so they can’t fall out of place. I hate hunting for things. IMG_5720.jpeg IMG_5719.jpeg IMG_5719.jpeg IMG_5718.jpeg IMG_5721.jpeg
     
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  16. Mitchell Rish
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    I also welded pads or feet so the plate doesn’t dig into the frame. I’ll clean up the welds also. It was cold today. I have had steadier hand days.
     
  17. Mitchell Rish
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    Mitchell Rish
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    Got the mounting plate for the Corvair box on the Thames in. I can use it to mount it reverse or stock style which is what I am looking at. IMG_5743.jpeg IMG_5749.jpeg
     
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