Hot Rods Good or Bad- Arias 8 carb intake for ‘57 Chrysler 392??

Hello and Thank You all for reading my post. I picked up an Arias intake at the Moultrie Swap on Friday Nov. 21st and I wanted to get your opinion about it. (I’ll post pics asap). I haven’t checked it out very closely, but I believe that 7 of the 8 carburetors have a Ford logo on them and 1 has a Holley logo. I am under the ***umption that these carburetors are the 97 style.

I bought this to go on my 392 Chrysler Hemi, So, is this a good set up? If it isn’t then not why not? Is there a different single barrel carburetor I should be considering to use on this intake on my 392? I’ve read good and bad things about the reproduction 97s sold by Speedway. What do y’all think about those? How difficult will it be to get them rebuilt? How about tuned and running properly?

Should I consider selling this set up and buying a different intake that uses possibly 6 97’s or even a dual four barrel carburetor intake?

FYI- I am a lot more interested in the eye candy aspect than I am about performance. This will be going in a fairly lightweight hot rod so I’m not going to need a crazy amount of horsepower for racing, etc. HOWEVER , like many of you, I’ll take all the hp & torque that I can get. Mark

 

Here are a few pictures…

 

Great eye candy! But the ****z for street use and economy.

FWIW, for fairgrounds cruising, it's not necessary to have more than two of the eight carbs actually functioning. Block off the fuel supply, block-off plates under the six non-functioning carbs, have a throttle linkage which never opens those six.

jack vines

 

Those are Holley/Ford 94's, not Stromberg 97's and they are 2 barrel not 1 barrel. So are the Strombergs.

Dave

 

Shoot I’d run it if I had the chance, but then I’m the idiot that builds a nitrous motor for his daily grocery getter

 

Speedway 9Super7s are trash, there are tons of threads about their issues here, but buying 8 brand new genuine Strombergs would definitely embody the saying "Buy once, cry once". You could find good 97 cores and have them redone but it would probably be a similar upfront cost on top of using really old cores that have been built and rebuilt many many times by varying skill sets over the decades. The biggest issue using what you have are the fact that the Holley/Chandler-Groves carbs have a vacuum operated enrichment valve, the more carbs you run then the more sensitive this valve becomes to throttle opening which can lead to over rich conditions at best or ending up with an oil pan full of gas at worst. I don't even know if they make a power valve with that light of a spring to accommodate 8 carbs. If I had to choose it would be the real 97s just on the fact the enrichment valves are mechanically operated by the accelerator pump.

 

The main difference between 94’s and 97’s is the accelerator pump. 94’s use a diaphragm pump and 97’s use a mechanical pump ( with a leather cup which can go bad if it sits for a long time. If you backfire a 94, you have to replace the diaphragm. The Ford logo carbs might be worth more to a restorer. Should maybe check that. Your 392 could handle 8 deuces, maybe run on 4 and dump the other 4. I run 4 ,97’s on a 283 non progressive linkage….not a problem.
HAMBer Brian B*** does this 8 deuce thing all the time. Don’t believe it? Take a ride

 

This is an Edelbrock 8x2 (but basically the same as the Arias intake) with eight of the new Stromberg 97s made in England. I did have to go through each carb and make sure the accelerator pump linkage was set the same on each one so that each carb was getting the same “shot” of fuel. You do this by carefully bending the pump arm on top of the carb. Float levels also need to be the same. I had to re-jet a couple of times to get it trimmed to where it was happy. Out of the box, the main jetting and byp*** valves were too rich. You will need good/strong linkage, and I would suggest just running all 8 together…although you may be able to make a progressive set-up work….I would argue it’s not any better than a properly tuned “straight linkage” set up.

This was a stroked 392 with good Hot Heads aluminum heads, a lot of compression, and a big solid roller cam. But the same set up would work on a 331/354/392 with (at least lightly) ported heads, and a decent cam with a lot of duration. I would also want to see at least 10:1 compression. Not sure how it would work with an automatic transmission…this car has a 4-speed stick.

I can’t help you with running Holley/ Ford/ Chandler Groves 94s. I personally think that the Strombergs are a better choice for multiple carbs, especially more than 2.

You can start the video below at the 2:22 mark to get to the part where it’s running and driving. The throttle response is pretty incredible. And this car is scary fast.

 

miss your posts Brian @B*** , don't be a stranger

 

DITTO !!

 

I ran three of the 9super7s from speedway on a SBC in a 32 5W about ten years ago. Absolutely no complaints. They worked fine and were easy to tune. Only reason I traded the intake/carbs to a buddy (who is still running them today on a sbc in his rpu) is that I put together a 383 stroker for the car and didn’t think three 97 size carbs would feed it enough.
Many on here with more experience than me, and not sure I’d have the balls to do an eight carb setup, but the idea of blocking off 4 and running 4 sounds intriguing. That way you could use the expensive 97s and do four gutted cores and four new ones. Run fake fuel lines to the gutted ones and four real lines to the running ones from separate fuel logs. I can see it in my head. Cool.
PS: I could use a couple of those 8BA carbs if you decide to unload them.
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