That first one sure looks like one of these. Same with the last one. Scroll down the the Gold one in the link. https://bringatrailer.com/2018/04/26/technically-interesting-ford-indy-dohc-v8/
1st. photo- DOHC Indy effort from Ford Engineering, it’s genesis was the Windsor SBF, Hilborn injected 2nd. -Meyer-Drake Offenhauser, Hilborn injected 3rd. - ***eol, originally designed as a bus engine, Winfield carbs and Lou ***eol had Bud Winfield hop up ***eols 4th. - Unidentified, but early ‘teens. 5th. - The Windsor SBF based engine that preceded the DOHC, with Webers 6th. - Another DOHC Ford with Hilborns
From Mr. Goggle and his AI buddy. No guarantees as to how correct it is. The image shows mechanics working on a Gurney-Weslake Ford V8 racing engine in a vintage race car, likely a Lola T70 or McLaren in the 1960s. This engine was a high-performance V8 based on the Ford Fairlane 289cid block, developed by Dan Gurney's All American Racers and Weslake Engineering
After some research on the internet, it appears #4 could be the engine of the Mercer that raced at Indianapolis in 1913 (#21 - driver: Ralph DePalma). This needs to be confirmed.
@Dubonet Garage appears to be correct, that is a 1913 Mercer, Type 45. I believe it had a 450 cu. in. Continental engine with a Wheeler-Schebler carburetor.
3rd photo I believe is a ***eol Twin Coach engine (they used two of them in their buses) fitted to a Kurtis Indy car ch***is. Details here https://www.raceenginetechnology.com/Suppliers/musings-the-***eol
OK - where did you sharp-eyed folks see a Wheeler Schebler carburetor in these pictures ??? Patsurf - the carb history is easier for me than identification of the pictures. George Schebler was an inventor, and Frank Wheeler a financier. The Wheeler-Schebler Carburetor Company was founded in 1905. Incidentally, Mr. Schebler and Mr. Wheeler were two of the founding fathers of the Indianapolis race track. Mr. Schebler sold his share of the company in 1912, but the carburetors continued to be called either Wheeler-Schebler or simply Schebler. The Marvel Carburetor Company, founded in 1908, was not a part of the Wheeler Schebler Company until later. In 1928, the Marvel Carburetor Company was a part of the beginnings of Borg-Warner, which also acquired Wheeler-Schebler. Somewhere around 1935 or so, some of the Schebler designs were built in the Marvel plant and came to be known as Marvel Schebler. I was surprised at the mention of the Schebler carburetor on the racing Mercer. Production Mercers in 1913 used the Flechter carburetor. Jon
In looking for info on the 1913 Mercer Type 45 I had read that they used Continental engines with the W-S carburetors, but there was no do***entation in the article to back that up. Could it be that a Mercer built for street use had the Flechter carbs and the Type 45 race cars ran the W-S carburetors on their larger engines?
There were several brands of carburetors floating around at this time. While I have no proof, guessing that various companies "sponsored" some of the racing teams for advertising purposes. I have advertising brochures on dozens of different carburetors during this time period; and each would advertise the races their carburetor had won. Jon
Carbking....thank you for the engine pics...especially the Indy Ford 255 quad cam......in the late 1970's a mate told me about an unusual engine on display in the foyer of a local restaurant...I guy I knew who worked at a High performance importer, Diablo Motors in Sydney, NSW who brought in containers of drag racing & speedboat stuff had bought out an engine shop in the USA and aslong with the various SBC,SBF, Mopar & other V8's came a genuine Ford 255 Indy Quad Cam engine, complete with the "bundle of snakes" to the sump, cam covers & everything lock wired, a beautiful thing to look at..........so as my mate also worked as a chef at said local restaurant the engine was put on display in the restaurant foyer.........it was on display for about a month but ended up going back to the USA..........at least I can say I've actually touched one of these amazing engines.......probably the only one that ever came downunder....lol.........Andy Douglas
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