Register now to get rid of these ads!

Featured Event Coverage Iola Car Show and Swap meet Treated Badly

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by BJR, Dec 16, 2025 at 4:13 PM.

  1. BJR
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
    Posts: 11,336

    BJR
    Member

    4 of us have been going to the Iola car show since the 70's. We have been swapping there since the 90's. Have had the same spaces for the last 15 or 20 years. We were just notified that we have lost our spaces because we pulled out of the show on Saturday morning, it starts Thursday. We had sold almost all of our stuff and one of the guys had to leave Friday as his wife was sick. We had 4 spaces and rented a big tent. They said we broke the rules. What a ****ed up way to treat the vendors who make the show happen. I have been to the show every year since 1978 except for 2 years, same with the rest of the crew. Our drive is 4 hours each way, so if we leave Saturday night we drive most of the way in the dark, pulling a trailer. We are now considering saying **** it and not going anymore. And yes we talked to the people in charge.
     
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2025 at 5:53 PM
    Carter, ydopen, Toms Dogs and 9 others like this.
  2. ahshoe
    Joined: Sep 12, 2012
    Posts: 1,054

    ahshoe
    Member

    The swap meet is not their main focus for Iola anymore. Their energy is in the Blue Ribbon cars,the autograph sessions, new car and truck vendors and the car corral. If you look at the swap meet space it has been knocked down with a big beer garden, a large center area of the grounds with a fenced in space with more less permanent equipment parking, a trail that used to be swap spaces for golf carts and a large parking lot for their workers ALL those areas plus the big hill and space below the hill use to be for swap vendors. Since it got bought out a few years ago it has an over the top noticeable emphasis on every event they have at the area near the tower. The price keeps going up and they constantly ignore the main original draw of the show …swap meet vendors. They simply do’t give a **** about parts vendors and that is why they are screwing you. I was a vendor there for 25 plus years and have watched the decline of this once wonderful event.
     
  3. snoc653
    Joined: Dec 25, 2023
    Posts: 1,014

    snoc653
    Member
    from Iowa

    Their things to know page for vendors doesn't say anything about be required to stay through Saturday. Now if you had a vehicle in the swap space between 9 and 4 that would be a violation of the posted rules, at least it would be for 2026. But any show that feels they can dump on their vendors will eventually lose all of the vendors that make the shows work and wind up with nothing but crooks and scam artists.
     
  4. BJR
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
    Posts: 11,336

    BJR
    Member

    I agree it is on the way down.
     
    lothiandon1940 likes this.
  5. JD Miller
    Joined: Nov 12, 2011
    Posts: 2,672

    JD Miller
    Member

  6. Damon777
    Joined: Jan 7, 2022
    Posts: 162

    Damon777
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    We have only been attending Iola for the past few years (as spectators), and are talking about skipping next year. TBH, I have gotten better deals at the local MN swaps. At least on the oddball stuff I am interested in.
     
  7. Bird man
    Joined: Dec 28, 2009
    Posts: 1,033

    Bird man
    Member
    from Milwaukee

    What a steaming pantload. Guessing you and another 100 vendors will fall by the wayside again this year.
     
    Bill's Auto Works, BJR and ahshoe like this.
  8. ramblin dan
    Joined: Apr 16, 2018
    Posts: 4,101

    ramblin dan

    Had a issue like that locally and have seen it more than once. It usually starts when someone new takes over the show or swap meet and begins to twist it all over the place which changes the whole dynamic of the event. And is more about profit than anything.
     
  9. chevy57dude
    Joined: Dec 10, 2007
    Posts: 9,681

    chevy57dude
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Seeing good folks treated like **** really pisses me off. It was hard to throw a ''like'' on your post. Sorry this is happening.
     
  10. stuart in mn
    Joined: Nov 22, 2007
    Posts: 2,803

    stuart in mn
    Member

    Per what snoc653 said, when you talked to the people in charge were they able to produce a written rule against when you left, or were they just pulling it out of their hat?
    It seems weird that they apparently had someone running around the grounds taking attendance.
     
    Bill's Auto Works likes this.
  11. RodStRace
    Joined: Dec 7, 2007
    Posts: 8,958

    RodStRace
    Member

    As far as taking attendance, I would guess that they do have security walking the grounds. It would be simple to ask them to report empty spaces.
    I am of the opinion that the discussion was where things failed. The event people should have provided a clear way back into their grace, especially on any new rules and OP should have explained that hourly employees can be held to start/stop times, but private contractors (such as a space rental) can set their own hours within the open/close times of the event. That life happens, emergencies happen, all goods might be sold before the end and other situations where a space might not be occupied the entire time. The event group is taking risks with weather, attendance and other expenses, but so are the vendors.
    I wonder if there is something else that is driving this. Either personal issues with OP or wanting to wipe out the small vendors entirely.
     
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2025 at 10:26 AM
    ERguitar and tractorguy like this.
  12. rusty1
    Joined: Nov 25, 2004
    Posts: 13,067

    rusty1
    Member

    They treated you guys very badly, up theirs...
     
    lothiandon1940 likes this.
  13. X-cpe
    Joined: Mar 9, 2018
    Posts: 2,277

    X-cpe

    I don't see what their problem was. If it has been like other swap meets, you paid for the weekend. That means they got theirs.
     
    lothiandon1940 and 1oldtimer like this.
  14. lothiandon1940
    Joined: May 24, 2007
    Posts: 32,455

    lothiandon1940
    Member

    Sounds like a true bunch of ***-hats running the event. Hopefully vendors as well as spectators (and potential buyers) will vote with their feet and stay away next time. In this time of wide spread social media, public relations becomes even more important than ever. My thoughts...ef 'em!
     
  15. corncobcoupe
    Joined: May 26, 2001
    Posts: 8,839

    corncobcoupe
    SUPER MODERATOR
    Staff Member

    I don’t disagree with you on your abrupt treatment.

    I don’t have every detail on the reason or this was the reason or not, but begs the question, if you had a family emergency, you have to get permission from those in charge to leave ?

    I’m being facetious of course.

    When I’ve bought swap meet spaces, you paid your money for the spot whether I’m there 4 hours, 8 hours or 10, 1 day, 2 days or 3 days.
    There’s no time clock, in or out.

    If you sell everything, you have to stay regardless?
    Usually - swap meets are Friday through Sunday, and it’s a given that 50% of the vendors don’t come back Sunday.

    With this being a Thursday opening, it’s very possible you do sell your stuff by Saturday.

    This one seems interesting.
    From a promoters standpoint point, wish I was a fly on the wall with that discussion, decision.

    Just thoughts, questions, opinion.
     
  16. RodStRace
    Joined: Dec 7, 2007
    Posts: 8,958

    RodStRace
    Member

    abe lugo and lothiandon1940 like this.
  17. corncobcoupe
    Joined: May 26, 2001
    Posts: 8,839

    corncobcoupe
    SUPER MODERATOR
    Staff Member

    When you’re in the business to make money by trying to Micro Manage events for people for enjoyment, ( both sellers and buyers ), most likely in time will decline. Sellers paid their money, you start telling them what time and when, you’ll lose some for sure.

    This problem can be solved, ( somewhat)
    List the printed expectations and rules that must be signed separately with your Application.

    I’ve always looked at things from both sides. ( my years of corporate marketing strategy)
    That way, no surprises and If you are a seller you know up front before hand what their rules are.

    These are suppose to be enjoyable events for both buyers and sellers.

    I’m sure the promoter looks at it as, yea, I don’t want empty spots on the Big Saturday and don’t want the trend to take off so others sellers start doing the same thing so when Saturdays Big Day comes the “spectator “ gate ( that’s your money maker) doesn’t fall off.

    To me, I would have said, hey can you help me out a little bit in the future to stay longer on Saturdays the big day.

    I’m sure that approach would be a lot more receptive.

    If I was a promoter, Friday - Sunday, knowing Friday afternoon and all day Saturday are the big days and Sunday will be about half vendors.

    Random thoughts, opinion.
     
    lothiandon1940 likes this.
  18. corncobcoupe
    Joined: May 26, 2001
    Posts: 8,839

    corncobcoupe
    SUPER MODERATOR
    Staff Member

    In the rules ……
    It does say this.


    VENDOR SET-UP DAY - Wednesday, July 9, 2025

    Gate #19 opens for staging at 7 a.m. There will be NO entry before then.

    At 10 a.m., vendors will transition from the staging area into the showgrounds.

    Vendors arriving after 10 p.m. will be unable to register until 6 a.m. Thursday, at Gate 2.

    The 2025 Iola Car Show opens to the public at 7 a.m. Thursday, July 10th and runs through Saturday,

    July 12th. We encourage vendors to remain engaged until at least 5 p.m. Saturday.

    ADHERE TO YOUR SPACE MARKERS

    All merchandise, vehicles, tent stakes, etc. must be within the space markers ***igned.

    Do not infringe on your neighbor’s space. Do not go outside of the parameters of your ***igned space.

    This has always been a vendor rule, and will be strictly enforced.

    If you are in violation of this rule you will be instructed to immediately correct the infraction. Violation

    notices will be issued at the discretion of Iola Staff or Security personnel.

    NO VEHICLE TRAFFIC IN THE SWAP MEET



    For safety reasons, all vehicle traffic will be suspended on Friday & Saturday from 9 a.m.

    - 4 p.m.

    SATURDAY - ADDITIONAL EXIT GATES

    At 4 p.m. Saturday, additional exit gates will be opened for vendor move-out. Gates #1, #2, #3, & #6

    We encourage vendors to stay engaged until 5 p.m. You are welcome to stay through Sunday morning!

    There will be concerts on the Main Stage & fun at the Oasis close out the show!
     
    lothiandon1940 likes this.
  19. corncobcoupe
    Joined: May 26, 2001
    Posts: 8,839

    corncobcoupe
    SUPER MODERATOR
    Staff Member

    “We encourage Vendors to remain engaged until at least 5 PM Saturday” in the set up section.

    And the Exit section….
    We encourage Vendors to remain engaged until 5PM”

    In both the setup rules and exit rules.

    Encourage and must are different words.

    My opinion - Wednesday through Saturday swap meets are way too long just like Friday - Sunday are too long.


    Set up 12-6 Thursday.
    Friday / Saturday done.
     
    rattlecanrods and lothiandon1940 like this.
  20. BJR
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
    Posts: 11,336

    BJR
    Member

    We were out of the gate before the 9am cut off on Saturday morning. Driving 4 hours home after leaving at 5pm, providing you can get out at 5 with all the other vendor trying to do the same, is one long day. Historically we have sold very little on Saturdays, It is mostly guys on dates or people just looking for something to do to kill the day. Just people eating and women carrying lawn ornaments, and other non car stuff. Thursday and Friday are the big sale days, as the die hard car guys take off work to go to the swap meet to get the parts they need for their build.
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2025 at 9:44 AM
    lothiandon1940 likes this.
  21. corncobcoupe
    Joined: May 26, 2001
    Posts: 8,839

    corncobcoupe
    SUPER MODERATOR
    Staff Member

    I’m not disagreeing with you.
    Now you know the parameters that they run by and their request so you know in the future (if there is a future) they run by.

    Obviously, the promoter doesn’t see it the same way as you do with the request to try to be engaged until 5 PM Saturday, probably is their biggest gate day and they don’t want to see empty spots.

    See what they say for next year if you decide to go and with that understanding can get a spot to sell. Now you know. Again, I would not have handled it that way that you were abruptly treated.
     
    lothiandon1940 and BJR like this.
  22. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
    Posts: 22,746

    alchemy
    Member

    Words are important. As Cob said, encourage and must are different words. If you think you might want to go back, call the promoter and tell him so. If you want to protest, call the promoter and tell him about the many thousand views this thread is getting.
     
    lothiandon1940 and BJR like this.
  23. finn
    Joined: Jan 25, 2006
    Posts: 1,497

    finn
    Member

    Swap meets have changed over the years as the participants and clientele have aged and are rapidly disappearing. There are still plenty of empty swap spaces even after making room for the cart paths and things like the beer garden.

    Face it: it’s not 1986 anymore, or even 2006, and things have to change.ge. Ignoring these realities means a gradual death to swap meets as we know it.

    Vendors leaving early was always a problem for me even thirty years ago, when I had all I could do to get there fot Sunday morning. It was extremely frustrating to find the field half empty because greedy vendors thought it was ok to make a quick kill, then vamoose with no consideration for the hundreds of attendees who drove hundreds of miles to find half the spaces empty.

    I personally agree with the policy of revoking special considerations like “permanent” swap spaces for any vendor that doesn’t abide by the published rules and packs up early. The vendors are the backbone of the event, but the cash paying attendees are the ones that make the event viable, so why would a vendor piss on them.
     
  24. Moriarity
    Joined: Apr 11, 2001
    Posts: 37,626

    Moriarity
    SUPER MODERATOR
    Staff Member

    So vendors that sell out should be required to set up empty tables and attend the next day with nothing to sell?
     
    alchemy, lothiandon1940 and BJR like this.
  25. Dave G in Gansevoort
    Joined: Mar 28, 2019
    Posts: 3,783

    Dave G in Gansevoort
    Member
    from Upstate NY

    And mention that people are using that thing called the Internet more and more every day to procure those hard to find bits and bobs. They need to be flexible or they won’t be there in 2 or 3 years. And profits go to ZERO when they have no show… I don’t have free time to get to most swap meets these days, and I definitely don’t go to those that treat people badly.
     
  26. ekimneirbo
    Joined: Apr 29, 2017
    Posts: 5,395

    ekimneirbo
    Member
    from Brooks Ky

    Are there empty vendor spots or are there more vendors wanting spaces than available spaces?
     
  27. BJR
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
    Posts: 11,336

    BJR
    Member

    Lots of empty spots. And they keep making the swap field smaller.
     
    lothiandon1940 likes this.
  28. X-cpe
    Joined: Mar 9, 2018
    Posts: 2,277

    X-cpe

    They are indeed two different words, but I think most of us have been in situations where the intended connotation of the word encourage was much stronger than its denotation and not following that connotation had dire consequences.
     
    twenty8, BJR and lothiandon1940 like this.
  29. lothiandon1940
    Joined: May 24, 2007
    Posts: 32,455

    lothiandon1940
    Member

    ...Excellent point, Mark. Seems like a ridiculous rule to me.
     
    alchemy and BJR like this.
  30. lothiandon1940
    Joined: May 24, 2007
    Posts: 32,455

    lothiandon1940
    Member

    ....See Mark's post #24. :rolleyes:
     
    BJR likes this.

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.