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rebuilding after the crash

Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by racer-x, Sep 19, 2015.

  1. PXL_20251220_195233505.jpg The first fire up went great. Veteran nitro driver Al Mcfadyen and alcohol funny car driver Andy Bohl stopped by to ***ist. My crewman Mark Janeky was in the car. The timing was set. The Bruno fluid level was set. We had 200 plus oil pressure at all times.
    Now that it's cooled off I will do all of the post fire up servicing. The heads get re torqued. The lash is reset. The filter gets inspected. A full inspection for leaks. And more. The shop was filled with the funky green haze that made us all choke. Smiles all around on every ones face. It's almost ready to race
     
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  2. Dick Stevens
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  3. I just tried it. It worked for me.
     
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  4. Dick Stevens
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    It probably has to do with who you have listed to be able to see it, ie listed for friends and I'm not a friend on FB
     
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  5. Try it again or go to my Facebook.
     
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  6. ottersea
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    What is your facebook page?
     
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  7. Brian Kohlmann
     
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  8. The one standing in the winners circle and the car in front of KFC.
     
  9. Dick Stevens
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    I gave up. I'll have to settle for seeing what gets posted on this thread, I guess.
     
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  11. justabeater37
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    Found that, but the newest video is Dec 13. Guessing the video is set to private instead of public, which means only his FB friends can see it
     
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  12. Justin are you able to transfer the video over? I for sure don't know how to do it. I will ask some tech guys at work if I can maybe send it to you tube then post a link. Stay tuned in I need a day or two.
    Some of you might be thinking why are you going like crazy to fire the car up when the season is several months away. Well the post fire up check up showed no oil to the p***enger side. How would I now this? When the covers were pulled there was oil all over on drivers side. The p***enger side only had the pre lube on the parts. After a exhausting all ideas the engine was pulled today and dis***embled. We didn't find anything that was a for sure cause. We did find the number four cam bearing was not perfectly centered on the blocks holes. This is some what normal to find. We can only come up with this idea. The cam has a thrust bearing and two races. This would move the cam forward. If the holes are off a little the two combined could create a restriction. There was some oil weeping but not enough. I decided to run a drill bit from the deck to the cam bearing. My machinist friend just happened to stop by at the perfect time. He said he had long drill bits. He ran home to get them. I used the block as a guide only drilling the bearing. The over all diameter wasn't increased. I removed material off one side of the bearing. This should help align the holes on the cam and bearing. Trying to push cold 70 weight oil through a restricted hole doesn't work well. Before we started wire was run through all of the holes to make sure nothing was plugged up with trash. It will go back together soon. We use a priming shaft on the pump to pre lube the engine. I will do this again with the heads off. If it works oil should hit the ceiling. Some towels should contain the mess. PXL_20251222_233707536.jpg PXL_20251223_001054454.jpg
     
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  13. 19Eddy30
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    Some time back , did you have a Issue
    Oiling on One side ,, Not Milk shaking,
    Little to no oil upper end ?
     
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  14. mohr hp
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    Oh hell!
     
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  15. Your correct. I did have a issue on the right side. It was related to the rocker shafts. This is different. I'm on emergency call for my department starting Friday for a week. If it's slow I might be able to get it back together.
     
  16. 19Eddy30
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    @racer-x
    I know you are surrounded by others ,
    & you have AJ Heads & Grid , RacePac
    Can you plum in a Gauge on each head
    @ end of oil p***age
    " last Rocker or Oiler " have a low set
    Sensor or Led light , if oil drops below
    Set # Light Up warning or Kill Mag ?
    Rarely going to loose PSI on Crank unless spin , Blacken bearing or Rod .
    Not for sure , Does your block have separate oiling p***ages off oil pump or doe's any of the Aftermarket Race Blocks have ? Independent oiling .
    Crank /Rods . There self
    Cam & lifter's there self
    Then Upper just heads Rocker shafts
    Then all drains back to pan .
     
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  17. Calkins
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    It won't let me.
     
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  18. 55Belairretrorod
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    Thanks Justin, that's about what I imagined. I have a similar thing I bought from the hardware shop which you can use for (a**** other things) lifting a house door to fit to hinges. It just has a bulb pump attached, amazing what it will lift.
     
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  19. Std KB oiling. Number four cam bearing just like a stock block. Cam bearings are pinned.
     
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  21. mohr hp
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    Good catch on this, could have torn up some parts. Something has to be covering a p***age. You'll figure it out, but maybe a fresh set of eyes on all the interfaces would help.
     
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  22. Trust me we are on it. My snap on buddy is bringing over a small diameter bore scope. We will be able to see exactly what's going on.
     
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  23. I found the problem. This piece off trash was in the cam. PXL_20251225_161705896.jpg
     
  24. mohr hp
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    Dang! It's always the little things! Inside the camshaft-I doubt most guys would ever suspect that.
     
  25. 19Eddy30
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    @racer-x
    Did you identify the debris ,
    Are you Thinking Floating around from time back from oil pump issue ?
    Or from crank gear or ?
    Year of your K-B ?
    I have not looked , kept up with After
    Market blocks since around 2004 when I was going to switch to Hemi then became ill , so I can not remember to much info spec's was going to be a new Adventure,
    so back to block can that one be modified for direct oiling to the rocker stands ?
    Me back year's ago I was in harry really for know reason I was backing off rockers & did not have lifter on base circle , lifter sling shotted / bounced off cam , makes a unique sound when roller on lifter break's , maybe 40 plus needles
    Go every where even places you wold not think they could be / go , trying to find all , I think there where 2 cold not find , so Multi Magnet's epoxy in heads & oil pan , also made a another ballon style pre screen around pic up screen ,
    Just Extra insurance . 1 scent part kill
    30K .
    I seen needles make there way up into gears of pump's ...

    Your shop , The temp , does it get below
    65 deg's ? If so you do you have Oil pan heater to Heat oil before start up .
    70 wt thick even @ 85 deg's ?

    What ever was in cam with 200 psi wedged good pressure against not to push up into bearing or father into oil p***age
     
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  26. Part of it was metal coiled chips most likely from when the holes were drilled. I have put together countless Mopar engines. I have never seen this before. Needless to say it will be check going forward. The holes don't go straight through the cam. One hole is at 6 o'clock the other around ten o'clock. It was at the point where they meet was where the blockage was.
    You would think with 200 plus pounds of oil pressure it would have forced the trash out. It most likely packed it harder.
    My shop is heated. It had 60 wt nitro oil in the pan. That's not a issue because I have started it at fifty degrees with no problem. When it's that cold I use 50 wt.
    The engine and transmission are back in. Im waiting on foam seals for the intake. I plan on firing it up again next weekend. I have been on emergency call lately and it's been busy. That's good and bad. I earn extra cash for the car but no time to work on the car
    The new helmet was ordered. Wait until you see this. Helmet technology has come a long way.
     
  27. Being on emergency call is effecting how much work I can get done. It's getting close. I should be able to fire it up this weekend. I'm this far. PXL_20251230_051848486.jpg
     
  28. Calkins
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    Another great local event to add to the schedule.

    Eddyville Raceway Park - Iowa

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