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Oh Man - More Visions The Sickness Continues

Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by corncobcoupe, Jan 11, 2026.

  1. corncobcoupe
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    We’ll see.
    Need to get the other wheels and tires all situated, up / running before any consideration parting with them.

    I like odd stuff and in short time have learned the Mopar small bolt pattern limits you on options.

    The only other thing to consider is re-drill to 4-1/2 or get 4-1/2 hubs.
    Prefer not.

    Treasure hunts are fun though. (Sometimes)
     
  2. Sharpone
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    Do you know what rear diff you have?
    Dan
     
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  3. slowmotion
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    Boy Howdy. I searched every salvage yard I could find for a rotor for my sister's Dart, some years back.
     
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  4. RodStRace
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    Yeah, rock auto is the first stop to get part numbers and availability. Of course it's luck of the draw if the stuff is actually usable these days, but it gives you a baseline on how hard it is to find and what the prices are.
    A Bodys Only of course to get the archived info and the latest talk about vendors and stuff.
    I dig this project but want to see the 38 get some love too.
     
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  5. Sharpone
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    Rock auto had all the brake parts for my 66 Dart at very reasonable prices.
    Dan
     
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  7. corncobcoupe
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    Decoding the Fender Tag…….
    2.93 axle
    904 Torqueflight

    AND even has the Cirtacard.
    Difficult to read , but what I could make out is Whittier , CA.

    I dig this part of the project, doing research.
    Finding data……
     
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  8. Sharpone
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    Cool stuff
    I’m guessing you have a 7-1/4 diff, they don’t take a lot of abuse. The sure grip is better. I have a 7-1/4 open diff in my dart I will install a Ford 8.8 in the near future. The beauty is that they can be narrowed by shortening the p***enger by 2-7/8 IIRC and using a drivers side axle. They’re cheap and fit well. About the same strength as a GM 12 bolt.


    Dan
     
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  9. gene-koning
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    I have probably had more then 300 60s and early 70s Mopars over the years (I bought, sold and parted out Mopars for 15 years as a side business). If it was anything I planned on keeping, those left hand studs were a**** the first things I changed. That solved a lot of problems.

    Our 65 had 9" brakes, a 10" clutch, and a 7 1/4 rear end (3:23 gears, open rear), even behind the 833 4 speed. That tiny rear end took a pounding over the 4-5 years we owned the car, couldn't get enough traction to hurt it, I believe.

    I did change a few 4" bolt pattern cars over to 4 1/2" pattern. Many had the 7 1/4 rear, so I would swap in a 66-70 B Body (71 -74 were 3" wider) 8 3/4 (at that time they were cheap and plentiful, these days I would be looking at a modern Jeep 8 3/8 or an Explorer 8.8, both had the 4 1/2" bolt pattern). The "B" body rear end was 1" wider total, where the wheels bolt on, and the leaf spring perches were about 3/4" wider as well, but the leaf springs could be pushed far enough to seat the center bolt.
    The front was harder to change between the 4" pattern and the 4 1/2" pattern. The brake diameter was the biggest problem, you could just swap the drums with the larger bolt pattern drums if you kept the same brake diameter. If you car has 10" brakes (if I remember correctly, its been a few years), I could just swap the 4" pattern 10" drums with the 4 1/2" pattern 10" drums from a B body. I believe all the 10" drums shared the same spindle diameter, but they had the smaller ball joint studs.
    All the 9" brakes had a smaller diameter spindle. I don't believe Mopar made 9" drums with the 4 1/2" bolt pattern. All of the 4" pattern cars had smaller diameter spindles, they had upper and lower ball joints with a smaller diameter stud size too, so it required changing the upper and lower control arms as well as the spindles and drums to change from the 4" bolt pattern wheels. Re-drilling the 9" brake drums would probably be the best option if your car has 9" drums. The 10 drums had plenty of stopping power for a small block V8 in the early A body cars.

    Chrysler offered the 4 1/2" bolt pattern on A body cars starting in 1973, both with disc brakes or 10" drum brakes, but if the 73-77 A body still had 9" brakes, they retained the 4" bolt pattern wheels and the smaller spindles and the smaller ball joints with matching upper and lower control arms through the end of the A body cars, at the end of the 1977 model year.
     
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  10. RodStRace
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    That's about the most concise explanation you are going to get!

    IIRC, 67 was carryover on the front suspension, the 68s and 69s were a bit stronger.
    I didn't dig as deep as Gene, so consider that hearsay.

    Here's the MAD electrical a couple of us have mentioned.
    http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/amp-gauges.shtml
    It's been discussed heavily in A bodys only. Please check this before your first cruise.

    Cold War Motors is doing a tidy up on a notchback in the current videos. Not much to help you, but might be a break from the deep research.
     
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  11. corncobcoupe
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    Good info fellas.
    Thanks- I’m digging in on getting to know it.
    My last mid 60’s Mopar ( muscle car ERA ) was 40 years ago (1985) owning a 68 / 383 Charger.

    So my 67 Cuda we’re getting to know each other. Got some plugs, various air / fuel filters , plug wires today to play with tomorrow. Fuel pump check….. JUST STUFF

    Bad gas /so filters / carb check / gas lines / etc etc tomorrow.

    I still have to get her on jack stands / wheels off etc / brakes check.
     
  12. Corn Fed
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    Another cool car for Bob! I've always liked those. A friend's Dad had a door slammer with a 440 in it that they raced at Cedar Falls and Eddysville back in the 80's and early 90's. It had "The Racer's Wedge" painted on it.
    I vote you put a huge engine in it and terrorize the streets of DSM.
     
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  13. corncobcoupe
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    Thanks man,
    Just the start to bringing the old fish back to life.
     
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  14. corncobcoupe
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    Ok here’s a pic of the lug nut off the right rear.
    Mopar Small Bolt Pattern 4”
    ( looks like I’ll confirm tomorrow )

    7/16-20 thread.
    Lug nut length 1.625
    Shank wall thickness is;
    ( I don’t have my caliper at the house)
    So eye balling it with a tape measure about 3/32 to 1/8” looks like.

    Lug nut was on tight.

    I’ll try the drivers side LH tomorrow.

    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0792/7241/1417/files/8202_480x480.jpg?v=1699195313


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    I always did like this year and model of the Barracuda! Clean lines, but I don't think the scoop is stock. I could be wrong!.

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    1967 tail
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    1968 tail
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    1969 tail note the side markers.
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  18. SS327
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    You can’t go wrong with a 440, 727 reverse manual and a Dana 60 with sure grip and 4:30 gears.
     
  19. corncobcoupe
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    Trunk is great. Rock solid under the carpet and spare tire well is solid as well. Looking under this car, I’m thinking it spent a good part of its life out in California. Based on the Certicard where it originally came from.
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  20. corncobcoupe
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    And so it begins…..
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  21. slowmotion
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    Man, that's thing's in really nice shape. 8.75" diff? The Dart I mentioned of my sister's was, but it was a 318. The Signet I had in high school had the small diff though. Week link, especially with the 4spd.
     
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  22. Sharpone
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    You might be interested in Mopars in the Park in Farmington Mn May 29 - 30.
    A good swap meet and lots of cool Mopars and Daisy Duke will be there Sat and Sun
    Dan
     
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    Pleasantly surprised tonight.
    Drivers side studs / nuts were converted to RH.
    P***enger side studs/ nuts born with RH thread.
    All are the same 7/16 - 20 RH Thread :)

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  25. Moriarity
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    Yup, giant show and real big swap meet.... Daisy Duke on the other hand looks rougher than a night in jail these days....
     
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  26. Sharpone
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    Well I guess I’ll be sticking to looking at cars lol
    Dan
     
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  27. SS327
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    Daisy Duke on the other hand looks rougher than a night in jail these days....

    Yea, but don’t we all 40 or so years later?
     
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    I think this on an original chrome air cleaner or a chrome CalCustom with no script air cleaner would look cool.
    Is the engine the HiPo version with the Carter AFB?
    Dan IMG_3770.jpeg
     

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