Event Coverage MN Hambers State Bill to restrict use to weekends

I live on Long Island N.Y. and have Historical plates on my cars. In all the years that I have been here I have been stopped by the Police twice. Both times they apologized and said they just wanted to get a better look at my 57. I drive it a lot in the warm weather and have never had any h***les. As far as the regulations go, I do not think there are enough of us that they have to put so many restrictions on our vehicles.

 

"This is a cl***ic case of MSRA (people that know me know that I have no use for them) getting involved and screwing things up....."
I apologize for the 25 years I volunteered to work on the MSRA Legislative Committee and took the days off work and drove to St.Paul to sit in on committee meeting at the legislature to get the one pump ethanol free gas bill p***ed as well as blue dot tail light being legalized. I also apologize for the hours spent behind the scenes with lobbyists and talking to state reps stopping legislation before they became a bill. Remember when Minnesota was thinking about adopting California emission standards? That was stillborn. Yeah...all that wasted time and effort spent screwing up.

 

I can't comment on Minnesota because I don't know enough about it but Wisconsin allows collector plates on 20 year old or older vehicles (2006!) and I do see a fair number of people running them on **** that is clearly not a collector item.

I would fully support a change to the age range from 20 to 30 years, or just a crackdown on people who do that, because it's ****heads like that who abuse the rules outside of their original intention who spoil a good thing for everyone else.

Doesn't seem like this MN proposal had anything to do with that but I appreciate the chance to rant about it here anyway.

 

The bill said those particular times of operation were included, but it didn't say that other times were not included. I wonder if that was the intent of the person who wrote the bill, or if they just weren't very good at writing in legalese. If they really had intended on restricting use to daytime only that would have ****ed.

Years ago I had a neighbor who tried to get away with putting collector plates on her daily driver. She got stopped and ticketed in the middle of January during a snowstorm, the cop was pretty sure she wasn't headed for a parade in her rusty old Oldsmobile with slush hanging off the fenders. I didn't have much sympathy for her.

 

In my province we have mandatory insurance with a monopoly provincial insurer, and the cost of that insurance is about half to one third of regular insurance, with a collector plate.
The only operating restrictions are that it can't be used to or from work or school, or part way.
The vehicle has to be in a very good "collector" state, pictures must be provided to show this. One also has to pay insurance on a regular car.
The risk of cheating the system by using the collector car as a daily driver is if you get in a crash. It's pretty easy for the investigator to find out that the car was regularly parked at the local college or another workplace, resulting in an insurance fraud situation.

We also have a "Vintage" plate which restricts the car to parades and such, but it's very rarely used nowadays since it's so restrictive.

 

To my neighbors to the east those afichals work for you so fire them if there not doing the job you want not a political statement but fact. MSRA is a powerful organization they will monitor the bill and step in if needed.

 

I have my 41 ford truck and my 31 A registered in MN with year of manufacture plates. I chose the option of annual tab fees. $40.25 annually.
You don’t put a tab on your plate just pay the fee. I’m retired and I drive my A almost every day.

 

So any week night cruise ins or car shows wont be allowed? And how does restricting to weekends make the state of Mn. somehow better? They must have bigger issues to deal with than har***ing collector car owners.

 

Writing the ticket will be left to the interpretation of an officer. If you fight the ticket, it will be a judge that decides, so if you truly think that argument is valid, I'm sure you'll be welcome to present it. Good luck! Lol.

I have cl***ic plates on my box and I think I'm only supposed to be able to drive it the summer months, but I drive it whenever I want, no cop has ever looked twice. One of my buddies is a cop and I mentioned the cl***ic plates thing to him once, and he said oh really? I had no idea....

So I don't think cops care about it much...

 

I live in MN and have 5 cars with collector plates. To get a collector plate, you must have a vehicle registered with a normal plate, and pay the year tabs (tags) fee. That fee is based on your vehicle's value, and can be thousands of dollars.

operation on Saturday and Sunday from sunrise to sunset.

This is one of the lines that everyone (myself included) is making a big fuss about. Why would they try to restrict usage to daylight hours? That is certainly not unlimited weekend use.

Also, the current law does not include any operation restrictions (other than for use as a daily driver). The current law says "that the vehicle is owned and operated solely as a collector's item and not for general transportation purposes". What if I want to drive my car a on a week night to dairy queen? Or just go for a cruise? How about drive it to a shop for an alignment? All of those things would be prohibited with the language that the new bill used.

Is the current law vague? Yes. Would the new bill be good for the hobby? No.

 

Count your blessings here in CA the 1929 YOM plates on our Coupe are $225 a year. I just spent $400 transferring a T and getting personalized plates. The plates were only $50 of it and it'll take 3-4 months before the prisoners get them done. Then I'll need to pay an extra $40 a year to keep them.

 

I read the bill, the language they used was restrictive. Doesn't matter what the intent was.

 

The current law is quite vague and says "that the vehicle is owned and operated solely as a collector's item and not for general transportation purposes". That's it. There's no further restriction.

I think the current law allows going to the grocery store any time. I take "general transportation" as commuting to and from work every day. But that's just my opinion.

I'd rather they left the law vague than use the language they had in the bill

 

So far here in Va there are 3 type of Antique , Vintage ,Historical & I think
1 or 2 more ,,, all have different
law's /restriction's .
Also chose ,use wrong tag
You need to shop the Insurance
Just Liability is 6 month average
$400 ish
Then other's $250-400 12 month full & coverage unlimited miles aslong as not
7 day week driven & Same with tag ,one time fee . I know more about , I feel there commie trolling place like here ,

Might change any day because of
a lie ing Trojan Horse witch was put in office
Same with state head copper

 

Yeah, I've often driven to the store or wherever without any issues. I even used to drive it to work once in a while before I retired. As long as you have a car that is registered with regular plates I think that's all a cop is going to care about.

 

Sigh...
I know I gonna regret posting this, but;
Some of you cats really need to realize that statutes are written in legal language(Blacks'Law Dictionary is the defining source), not normal(Webster Dictionary-type/defined that most people use). They're called Words of Art, meaning that words look/spell/pronounce similar or exactly the same as normal language(usage/meaning), but w/different(usually *very* different) meanings. & almost always detrimental to *your* health/wealth/etc. ;( .
I'm not going beyond this here, didn't know about, & haven't read the bill, beyond this thread. As Moriarity said, it's dead... & anyways, it's pointless, & fruitless, to argue about something when everyone isn't on the same page regarding the actual meaning of the words used.
Something to research, iffen you wish. Or not...
Marcus...

 

In my state, full or club (Concessional) registration is offered; annual licensing (V8) is exorbitant by US standards) at approximately $1,300.00 (Full) or $1,050 (Club). Club registration gives access to cheaper insurance with restricted use however state has now adopted an online register that expands usage etc. Other states have log books etc, I'll let others offer other Ozzie state contributions.

 

This is a giant nothing-burger.

You are much more likely to have a problem when the 23 year old county mounty pulls you over and the little rascal can't figure out how to punch an old 11 digit VIN (serial number) into a system that is setup for modern 17 digit VIN's and the default response from the computer is "STOLEN". Crow Wing County, I am looking at you....

 

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I'm curious, 11 digit VIN??? That'd be an early version, or a very high-production car, - no, I haven't counted the Ser.# on my '55 -> cars(yea, now I'm curious enough to actually go look... ), but prior to then, Ser.#s were used. Not VINs. No surprise on the lack-of-knowledge from/of the enforcers. Deputy sheriff? If so, I'd be having a very nice convo w/the actual Sheriff about things - they are supposed to know. Also, both city & state police should too, but they have other objectives...
Marcus...

So I looked n counted the #s; found the '50 Stude has 6 digits, '55 has 7. Says Ser.# right on the factory spotwelded Data Plate. Fun fact: Stude used a capitol I for the #1, in the #sequence. That caused all kinds of hell for a lot of Stude owners, & still does, a few yrs ago, the SDC found the proper do***entation in the old Stude files. So now we can get a copy of that, to (help)ward off unknowning-zelot-knowitalls & help w/the equally unknowing STATE-creature.

 

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Db;
A lot don't know how correct you are... .
Marcus...