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History Why Print Matters: Hot Rod Deluxe #1

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Curt Six, Jun 10, 2026.

  1. I tend to ignore what's going on outside, but I do go to swap meets that might have a show attached to it. Combined with searching for parts/cars it makes it almost impossible to not to see some trends. The only way I really see what's going on is prices on parts or cars, if I see a large enough fluctuation in them I'll stick my head up and look around.

    This is when you know the end is coming, it's gotten to the main m***es and it's only a matter of time before they move on.
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  2. Sharpone
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    That’s just wrong
     
  3. silent rick
    Joined: Nov 7, 2002
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    I remember one of the first two issues made mention of the jalopy journal which is how i found the hamb but it wasn't until after attending the first hunnert car pile up in sycamore and meeting a few of you mugs that I decided to finally join
     
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  4. Roothawg
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    I have 4-5 lateral cabinets of print chronicled in order. My secretary is constantly updating them.
     
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  5. fabricator john
    Joined: Mar 18, 2010
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    Print absolutely rocks and is the foundation of how most of us learned about hot rods and cool cars ,, Im gonna bet that 90% of the guys here had at least a couple of wadded up over read car magazines by the time they reached junior high school !! I was a HR subscriber by 8th grade (,made a career out of it , just turned 59 ,still killin it every day) ,, Books and magazines still rule , Ever sat on the throne with a laptop ? lol i don't think so ,, and reading your phone will make ya crosseyed ,, The premiere issue of HOT ROD DELUXE I still have mine ,knew it was gonna be special ,stored it safe ,, its pretty much mint! Over the years i have am***ed a pretty good collection , the newer stuff is good, real good ,, However for me the real meat is 1962 and earlier ,, and that's where i have steered my collection ,, and everything hot rod related book wise i can get my hands on ,,,The whole thing is one big learning curve ,, what's cool.,, what you like ,,what fits what ,, We can all fumble through the mags and books for days and be just happy and even excited to see somthing that makes ya go WOW check that **** out!! honestly ONLY PRINT CAN DO THAT ,, and the JALOPY JOURNAL/ HAMB ,, RYAN YOU ROCK so thank you for this place ,, But back to print just the other day i saw in a old FAWCETT book from like 59-60 maybe , A deuce RPU flatty powered and proper BUT it had 180deg under the pan lakes headers and a DRY SUMP!! using a 6cyl pump for scavenging ,, big inch street driver ,, Can only imagine how that sounded ,, Made me say "check that **** out!" same way today that seeing something in my early teens did !! Im sure a lot of you can attest to all of this !!
    Fabricator John
    Miss you dad
     
  6. Wonder if print mags will see any resurgence like vinyl.
     
  7. LeClaire
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    Hop Up is the earliest thing I have in my collection. Tim Gavern announced it's return in 1993, and handed out these trying to drum up subscriptions. Mark Morton was the managing editor. Most of the other "modern" magazines I have launched in 2000 or 2001.

    Correction: The subscription card says Mark Morton was the managing editor, but he's not listed on the mast head for either of the two issues.

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  8. I would venture to say the jury might still be out on that and only time will tell. Humans have been writing things down for 5000 years, and printing for over 1000 years with some of that still surviving (for reasons that are typically religious). Not saying that digital print doesn't have pros over physical print, but digital is still the new kid on the block. I think it still has to prove itself not just as far as natural (environmental/technological) dangers but also against man made dangers (censorship), just as physical has had to do. History/information is never safe if you need more that just your eyes and the sun to read it. But that's just my opinion, cause paper burns too.
     
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  9. studebakerjoe
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    @fabricator john Do you have that Fawcett book or a pic of it? Good chance I have a copy but I can't recall which one it might be
     
  10. PGA STUDIOS
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    Cant find any photos of the contents of the magazine except for the cover, table of contents, and back advertising the Hot Rod Soda. IF anyone is holding onto physical copies and has access to a scanner, save it for the future and donate a digital copy to the internet archive: https://archive.org/
     
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  11. PGA STUDIOS
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    Cant wait to hear some un heard history! Good thing digital videos dont wear out like a VHS tape or else i would've already burnt out my Von Dutch interview while he striped with Ed Roth
     
  12. Last night I went on the hunt for my copy of issue 1 I couldn’t find it but I did find my copy of issue number 2!

    I was not able to find a copy at the time I find mine just a few years ago for a buck at a swapmeet!
     
  13. don colaps
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    My number one and two lies directly on the floor under my bed, as in now, for timeless(?) inspiration
     
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  15. jnaki
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    Hello,

    I know print matters. Without it, history would be down the drain. What ever the subject, there is a market of readers for that portion of history. Sitting in a high school English and World History cl*** were important to our lives. Although the girl sitting next to me was more important. But, in the long run, I must have listened to what the teachers were trying to get across to us impressionable teenagers.

    Without print, where would we be able to dive into past civilizations? It probably takes a certain type or person to be able to sit for hours reading about civilizations of the past and how it relates to our current climate. It does in many ways, but we all have our ways to see how they work against each other and with each other. Someone has recorded history in writing and one day, our great grand children will be looking at the facts and pondering its future.

    As for that period of hot rod development, most of the main players were still around wallowing in their public glory. The supporters or those that get involved in celebrity ***ociations were still there. A precursor to those next generation “followers” of the incessant “influencers.” Of which, the ***le was a misnomer. Who influences whom?

    The magazines all have writers and researchers. The long line of office “editors” are those that are given ***ignments and spend hours writing out details, etc. Then the top editors put them all together. So, we are the ones that see the final print that has gone through many hands prior to publishing.

    Jnaki

    Those issues, when they arrive in the bookstore magazine racks are interesting for the time it takes to read some articles or all of the articles. You may agree with or not, but those stories were worthy enough to get in print. And now, for them and for the select few, worthy for ***ociation of the magazine printed articles. Agree with a one way vision or accept the build information from one direction. It is a magazine after all. Not the only way to see things or do things as we hot rod/drag race folks grew up investigating.

    So, for public acceptance, if it is good, then it has a long shelf life. Otherwise, several issues down the road, the exit is planned for months ahead of actual print. YRMV

     
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  16. rusty1
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    bring back Hot Rod Deluxe and Rod & Custom!!!
     
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  17. Packrat
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    Cool thread! I bought Hot Rod Deluxe #2 at a bookstore near me, but #1 was not available here. I ended up buying one here on the HAMB a few years later. None of the cool mags were available around here, fortunately I found them on the internet.
     
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  18. kustomd
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    99 was a good year. I remember buying that issue off the news stand at some store. I bought that one and a couple other magazines that day. One of them had a picture of a car shooting flame throwers. I remember thinking in my 19 year old brain that it was cool and I needed that in my life. I found some guys in my town that i had met the year before who had cool old stuff like me and I started running around with them exclusively. I had just sold my 66 chevy short wide bed pickup because I was in trouble with Johny law for street racing it. I had bought a 68 chevy pickup that looked nice but the engine was junk. My new friends convinced me to sell it and that I needed a car. So off it went and I bought my 60 chevy 4dr that I still own. It was rough as heck too. We got it running and driving kinda sketchily and I drove it to hanging dice that year in fort smith arkansas. Where I met a bunch of cool new friends and my future girlfriend lol. I didn't know it at the time though. While I was there I was told about the hamb. I showed my new friends that magazine and it turned me onto a whole new world of cars. That was probably one of the best shows and times in my life. I came home after the show and joined the hamb. Which was more of a chatroom then with people talking over each other. But I made life long friends from it. I'm actually going back to print magazines now because the internet kinda ****s for finding cool custom and hotrod related stuff. I believe I met Ryan that weekend as well. Either there or the kkoa spectacular. I can't remember. I just know my rusty 60 chevy looked like it was dragged out of a field and I thought it was dumb to drive it to a car show like that. But my friends told me it would be cool and it turned out a lot of people liked it. I even got bored and painted flames on it in the parking lot at the hotel next to the host lol.
     
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