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  1. J.Ukrop
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    It worked great—when it stayed open. It still doesn't have a spring or a handle, so it would slam shut when I hit a big bump. While I was at David's shop, I borrowed a hose clamp and temporarily fixed the issue and it's been perfect ever since.
     
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    I've been really busy as of late and I'd like to get the conversation going about my pre-RPM Nationals "To Do" list. In the meantime, here's an awesome action shot from Jason Roth from the Roadster Run, plus a static one he took at the lunch stop. Screenshot 2026-08-17 at 2.24.30 PM.jpg
     
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    Totally missed it getting exhaust! How’d it turn out?
     
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    The exhaust turned out better than I had envisioned. Carlos at Sanderson nailed all the bends, and he installed three-bolt flanges for easy dis***embly. They sound great, don't leak, and make the car feel even more finished.

    As far as I know, Sanderson has advertised in every issue of The Rodder's Journal. There was no doubt in my mind that they were the right people for the job. I haven't outsourced much on this car, but I would say this was money well spent.
     
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    I'm back in Michigan this week and I'm sitting in my favorite chair long after everyone else has gone to sleep. I can hear the crickets' song through the open sliding gl*** door. The air is cool, and I can feel that summer is almost over.

    It's here that I've written many updates to this thread. So, with that in mind, here's where we sit on the project.

    The car is running, driving, and steering better than ever. I have 0.039 jets in the carbs, #69 power valves, and 3.48 gears in the quickchange. It's smoking less out of the road draft tube, although it did go through quite a bit of 30 weight oil in its first 500 miles. I plan to switch to 20W-50 and keep an eye on things. It has a smooth idle, no flat spots, and is a real joy to drive around town or on the open road.

    I've been pretty busy with other fun and exciting things in my life, but I'm getting ready for a big road trip next month. The plan? Drive the car to the RPM Nationals in Santa Margarita. It's a long haul—over 600 miles in a weekend—but that's what this project was (theoretically) built to do.

    Oh, and the best part? @A.Ukrop will be riding shotgun. I'm planning the route, and I've already booked some prime lodging.
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    1. Oil change
    2. Re-shim body to fix p***enger side door fittment
    3. Re-balance/replace left-front wheel. The current one causes vibration north of 70mph, but is fine at 69. I have a spare in the garage that I'm going to paint, mount, and balance, and see how it fares.

    I don't have a lot of garage time, but if I do accomplish those tasks, here are the bonus items.

    1. Install Dixco tach from @richard noble. The mount is in the mail, and @Hitchhiker is helping me find the perfect hose clamp to strap it to the column.
    2. Fix amp gauge. I didn't wire it right the first time, and it's the only non-functional instrument on the car.
    3. Hood lacing. I bought everything I needed like three months ago and haven't had the time. It's a low priority, but could help make things look a little more finished.
     
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    Man this is too good. The exhaust looks a little like @chlsnk's incredible B. Ross Roadster.
     
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    Sounds great!

    I had a wheel on the 46 that was off just enough that it would vibrate at 64 mph. Pretty specific right? With out fail and for only that speed. My solution was to not drive 64mph.

    how ever once I did pop the psi in the tires up a couple pounds more than normal and that thing bounced like a half time show from the globe trotters. Dropped it down 2-3 pounds and everything was fine. I say this because sometimes time runs away from you when it’s pre trip prep time. But it’s not too hard to mess with tire pressure between gas stations.

    looking forwards to the forth coming escapades!
     
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    Not that you haven't done a very careful quality build, but I'd also have some spares and fluids in the back, along with tools and a jack. Ignition, filters, some wire, fuses, electrical tape and bulbs along with some grease, oil and coolant will make sure you don't need any of it! Don't forget a flashlight, shop rags and poncho/coveralls.

    There are modern kits available cheap, but I bet you can source a traditional package that goes with the car even better.
    https://wilmarllc.com/w1555/w1555-deluxe-roadside-***istance-kit
     
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    Wow that's really interesting
     
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    B. Ross… Bob Ross for the happy little trees on the side ?

    exhaust is something that really a specialty shop who knows what you want is likely going to be faster, better and cheaper than whatever you scab together. Good call.
     
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    Don't know how this fits but years ago I ran one the old window mount evaporative coolers on my '53 pickup. With the sun visor and cooler it was really comfortable on hot summer days as long as you were moving except for an occasional splash on the p***enger when I hit a bump. It made me think of making a cowl vent cooler that would work in a similar way. I thought of putting a 5 gallon water can in the bed(or gas can rack) with a hose and wiper washer pump. A old canvas water bag would look cool. At the vent I thought of using a mister and maybe a piece of swamp cooler panel to catch drips. Just thought it could work well in a roadster when you run out of other things to think about.
     
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    Well well...that is good news and made me smile
    I plan to be there too...driving the '31 banger Vicky and leaving on the 16th....it is right at 1000 miles, one way, by the time I get my planned wandering done.
    See you there on the 18th....
     
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    @Six Ball wonder if you could simplify and make it via the bag of ice in front of the radiator. Just hang the cold ice bag in direct path of the cowl vent air under the dash.

    though at that point ya might just skip some steps and put the bag of ice on your lap lol
     
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    Proper updates are in order, but I’m back on the bus and figured it’s a good time for a sidebar. So here we go.

    Sidebar 415.5: Engines & Engines

    One of the things that you don’t really think about while building your first roadster is that—one day—you aren’t going to be building the car full-time. With that comes two other realizations. First, you have to start selling off and giving away your stash of extra parts. Second, you sometimes get to drop them off in your roadster.

    Down near the western end of Geary Boulevard sits a cl***ic firehouse. With its red brick, gabled roof, and tall roll-up doors, it has been active since 1928. I admire it whenever I drive by.
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    Last month, I listed my spare whitewall for free on Marketplace. It was an old 16-incher from David, and it’s been used to hold many a flathead or Harley big-twin in the bed of my truck. Since I’m downsizing, it was time to let it go.
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    Well, a few days later, a gentleman named Gene contact me about the tire. He told me he was a SF firefighter, and he was based out of Station 34–the aforementioned landmark station at the end of Geary. Although he offered to pick it up, I was having none of it. “I’m happy to drop it off,” I said.
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    And that’s exactly what I did. I soon discovered that Gene was also into old cars, and he daily drives a 1980s Blazer. “What’s the tire for?” I asked, curious if he had any vintage tin. “I’m just going to hold on to it,” he said. “It’s too cool to throw away!”
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    I wonder what Ron Dunn would have thought?
     
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    Wow! Great story! Thanks Joey.
     
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    I like that...any excuse to drive your old jalopy....it opens many doors in the process
     
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  19. I have never seen the doors up on that fire house, man it's small in there lol. Also it looks like he threw the tire around the clock on the wall way in the back.
     
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    Thanks! And great progress on your machine!

    Amen to that! Driving old tin makes just about anything more fun.

    Thank you, Tim!

    Sure is hahaha and good eye—I hadn't notice the tire around there.
     
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    This weekend, I carved out a few hours to work on the car. My task was one that I've taken on before and, as I could recall, a rewarding one. So, on Saturday afternoon, I headed over to my new/old garage and started addressing my ill-fitting p***enger door.

    And all I can say is this—that door kicked my ***. It took three hours of messing with shims, loosening, tightening, drilling, grinding, and modifying to get pretty much nowhere. The best I could get was it closing and latching, but when I pulled hard on it the door would click open. One of the cracks on near tack strip is becoming more prominent, too.
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    All I have to show for it is this picture of me carrying my toolbox on one of my three bus trips between my garage and home. By the time the sun set on Saturday, I wired the door shut again and decided that, this time around, the car had won. That's just the way it goes sometimes.

    Anyone have any good door alignment—and latching—tips for a Model A roadster?
     
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    All I have observed is the B pillar on the roadster is not very stable, creating a latching insecurity.
    I have seen tubular cages installed from B pillar to B pillar around the back of the p***enger compartment.

    However, there must be an easier way to add structure to the p***enger B pillar.

    What would David do?
     
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    The other problem, how stable is the A pillar, for aligning the door?

    These are both difficult problems at this stage of the build. Good resolution though will make for a MUCH more pleasant driving experience over the life of your hot rod.
     
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    My buddy got tired of messing with his door and used something like this to keep it from opening. 4PB98_AS02.jpg
     
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    The 30-1 I believe has a horizontal brace in the cowl side where the 28-9 doesn’t but you guys are probably on the right track with stiffening the B pillar.

    An “easy” and common way is a tab on the top of the b pillar inside the quarter and a tab on the subrail about a foot back. Connect them with cable or rod with a turn buckle in between.

    I know there’s only so much adjustment in the latches and dove tails, I wonder if you can shim it?

    Or I’ve seen a lot of later model Chevy trucks get a piece of pex over the post to get the latch the grab tight.

    a frustrating puzzle for certain.
     
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    I don't know what the mis-alignment looks like that your buggy is experiencing up close and personal... door alignment comes usually comes down to a large part being body hold down shimming to the frame.... and you are on a '32 frame....it is fiddling...looking at ...if I shim this ** pillar/body mount up/down that moves the door or the body in relationship to the door...even the rear body mount in the trunk...if it is a side to side issue then it might be stiffening and bending...it all comes down to observing where you think it needs to be and pissant it there a move at a time....I usually go the wrong way the first move....
    and there is a discussion on here somewhere about a body mans two by four....used for door alignment...where you can mess with his girl...but don't touch his two by four....
    think ....closing on it in the door between the door and the pillar.....up higher or down lower....or lifting up with the door open.....racking the door by closing in on the back door ...again, higher, lower on the opening...
    hope some of this makes sense because it really isn't a flow chart kind of procedure .....
    good luck
     
  27. My '29 AA p***enger door had a 3/8 to a half-inch gap and wasn't latching. I cut a full-length shim to close the gap and adjusted the latch stop but the door still bulges out gradually below the latch. That I can screw with using a two-by-four and pushing/twisting it from the outside. It's annoying but manageable. These cabs were never air-tight but you can wrangle them to adequacy with determination and patience. The good news: the driver's door fits so well I can't believe it! That's the door that will be used 99% of the time.
     
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    Thank you everyone for the sage door advice. I'll dive into my path to a solution here soon!
     
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    Soon after posting about the door, David texted me that he could help me fix it. I know that if there's anyone who could do it, it would be him. In the meantime, I drove the car to the dentist on Monday morning.
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    Although hot rodding is always fun, I will say that it was a little damp behind the wheel as I slinked down 19th Avenue.
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    Stopping to take a selfie with clean teeth.
     
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    After work on Monday, I stopped by the garage just to take a look at the state of the door. I'm sure all of us have been there before. I stood there in my nice work clothes thinking about what it would take to make the door latch. Next thing I knew, my sweater was off and I was shimming, prying, loosening, tightening, grinding, and filing all over again. As I did, the words of my friend Michael echoed in my head. "If the other door closes so well, pay close attention to that."

    After about an hour, I closed the p***enger door and it almost latched. I adjusted the striker plate and boom. Click. Rattle. Nothing. Pulling with my body weight—still latched. Success?
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    I tested it out in the best way possible: with a night drive from the Inner Richmond to the Haight. Through bumps, dips, and construction, the door stayed closed. I'd say that one is solved for now!
     
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