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Customs found a you tube video on my Futurian bubbletop

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Moriarity, Aug 31, 2026.

  1. Moriarity
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  2. RodStRace
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    Nice that it gets some ink (light?), but the whole thing feels AI.
     
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  3. Moriarity
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    could be AI, but the pics are all legit except for one that shows Jeff Jones in his mysterion under construction. And the facts all seem correct except they say it took 4 1/2 years when in reality it was 3 1/2 years
     
  4. Moriarity
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    they did this one on the car craft dream rod too
     
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  5. lostn51
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    I hate those stupid AI voices……
     
  6. Moriarity
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    me too but they pronounced my last name perfectly way better than most people do... hahahaha
     
  7. The comments from the experts telling you how you should have done it crack me up. I'd like to see what's in there garage.
     
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  8. Bugguts
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    Cool videos and now I know how to pronounce your last name!
     
  9. chevy57dude
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    More famous every day! Im so glad you share your collection!
     
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  10. willys36
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    Funny he shows me sitting in my Mysterion repro in your video. that is actually the only time I sat in it! Then note the little avatar of the Mysterion at the bottom of your video. That is the guy's tribute to me and building my Mysterion, but . . . . . every photo of the car that he attributes to me was of Dave Shuten's version. Didn't have one photo of my car!!!
     
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  11. stuart in mn
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    If they made the videos without your knowledge or involvement, it seems like they're trying to make money off the fruits of your labor.
     
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  12. willys36
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    No biggie. If that's the worst that happens in my life, it was a good life!! And he is using photos that are out on the web so free access?
     
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  13. Moriarity
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    Yeah, I don't care either, photos posted on the web are fair game for anything I guess
     
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  14. JimSibley
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    A bubbletop custom is the ultimate feather in a car builders cap, and your car is truely a work of art. Thank
    You.
     
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  15. Moriarity
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    Thank you sir
     
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  16. willys36
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    And lots of fun!!
    top form3.jpg Top form 1.JPG My bubble in press 2_5-22-2012.jpg P1010220.JPG P1010211.JPG P1010210.JPG Mysterion bubbles.JPG

    Even for models!
    Top jig.jpg P3220005.JPG Myst Window 1.jpg IMG_0850 - Copy.JPG
     
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  17. ClayMart
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    I'm guessing you had a Vac-U-Form as you were growing up . . .
    :cool:

    VacUs-l400.jpg

     
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  18. 29Sleeper
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    Now if they could just work on the Ham B.........
     
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  19. ClayMart
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    To a great degree you're right in your ***umption. At least when the materials are used for non-commercial or editorial purposes.

    If used in a video like this which I'm guessing is monetized that isn't always the case. It's probably OK as long as the material has no declared copyright, has an expired copyright, or is considered to be in the public domain. Otherwise the "content creator" (Gawd, I hate that term!) should buy a license for usage or seek permission from the copyright holder. He'll probably decide to use material that doesn't have clear copyright markings. Or less likely he'll maybe create his own original content.

    But trying to enforce copyright after the fact may not be worth the effort. You'll have to provide proof of ownership of your material. You'll have to determine a fair value for its usage. And even if you were to receive a small percentage of its earnings it likely still won't add up to much. It's my understanding that videos of this type may only earn like $.05 to $.15 or less per 1,000 views. And views don't get counted if the video is clicked off early, the viewer clicks thru the ads, or uses an ad-blocker with their browser.

    The value of the clicks may also depend on the number of subscribers to a particular channel. Youtube certainly has their interests covered.
     
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  20. willys36
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    Well .I'm exempt 'cause the guy used all Dave Shuten's photos when talking about my Mysterion. Guess I can sue for using my photo in Mark's video.
     
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  21. willys36
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    I wanted on for sure but no way could I afford it. I made my own using an old vacuum motor on suction and building a wooden vac box. Sort of worked. But I didn't use vacuum for any of my bubble tops.
    I made the tops for these two Fisher Body Craftsman's Guild cars using the method suggested by GM in their guide book given to Guildsmen. They recommenced heating and stretching 1/16" Plexigl*** over wooden patterns. I did it that way (carved the tops on the dual pod car and cut off the wood window form. Can't remember how I cut them off that model!), but they required a LOT of sanding and polishing due to the imperfect wood mold printing on them.
    1963.JPG

    1964.JPG
    I made the tops by blowing them, not stretching or vacuum forming them on both the 1:1 and model Mysterion. For the big car I found a company in Los Angeles that made bubble formed advertising signs. They advised on how to make my for, out of 2x4s. To blow the top, the heated a big sheet of 1/4" in an oven, pulled it out and laid it on the bed of a big hydraulic press covered in cloth, Pressed my form down on the hot plastic then blew air underneath for a perfect result. I blew two on that day, one to use in building the bode and one for ther final build.
    My form
    Top form 1.JPG

    Plastic laying in the press, my form abut to be pressed down and sir blown
    My bubble in press 2_5-22-2012.jpg

    My blown tops sitting on my mold at home
    P1010209.JPG

    My two new tops ready to install
    Mysterion bubbles.JPG
    On the model, I made the form shown, clamped a piece of Plexi with the screws, heated in the oven at 340F 'til it sagged, pulled it out of the oven shoved a rubber hose on the tube sticking out and literally blew it to shape. Was so much fun I blew 4 or 5!!
    Top jig.jpg
     
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  22. Jalopy Joker
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    yes, AI is modifying the way that the world is seen. but, hopefully will inspire younger people to be aware of early cars built.
     
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  23. Many of us build ground up hot rods but some take it to another level of art form. I don't have that gift. :) Back about 2019, my son called me, all excited. Someone had copied all the pics from a an almost 80 page build thread on protouring. com and compiled a 45 minute video with what I thought was poor taste in music. I was surprised that someone would do that much work. He thought they wrote a script that did all of the work. The website is one seems to have been bought up by roadkill. Before the video was moved, it had 1.6 million views. I didn't care about them using the pics. Maybe somebody got a question answered by looking at the build pics. When my son found it, there was 300,000 views.
     
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  24. hrm2k
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    The only thing that looked AI was the pictures from Mark's Futurian build. I've seen videos of Mark's garage / house and every square inch is covered in cars and memorabilia and never messy. Had to be AI :rolleyes:
     
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  25. HOTRODPRIMER
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    To plagiarize a American Graffiti scene, "Ain't he Neat" :D

    So cool! HRP
     
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  26. Moriarity
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    my old garage was a huge mess.....
     
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  27. HEMI32
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    Both videos were definitely generated using AI . . . Note the AI logo in the upper left hand corner of the You Tube video:

    AI logo (1).jpg
    AI logo (2).jpg
     
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  28. willys36
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    ***ume I know nothing about AI (FANTASTIC ***UMPTION!!!). Did AI create the narrative and stream the photos in automatically? If so, it's a decent job. And why would someone go to the trouble of doing this in AI in the first place? Inquiring mind want to know!
     
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  29. RodStRace
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    You know there are websites that can answer a lot of questions for you?
    I went to Google and got an AI answer and links. This was one of the top results.I didn't watch it, I don't plan on using this tech. However, if you are curious, they can supply the How To.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7CxWRix8PI
     
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