Apple computer guys, need your advice.

Post that link on /. and see how long the Mac Plus lasts.

 

windows blows

 

Quoted: <<<Geek Hell? what the F%$##?

The Hamb? No this ain't the hamb!! Your fu#$ing with me?>>>



So lets talk about radiators ok.... see thru pipes too.... hee hee...

I do recall my bro ordering a mega tower (complete with in and out tubing for coolant). It's for strickly video editing... the tubes are clear plastic of some sorts so if you want to put some funky glowing green fluid in there it will illuminate while it cools the tower and 6 hard drives. He was quick to nickname it "Junior" probably cause it takes all his time and money.

Me... I'm new here at the boards.. but enjoying this thread oh so much. I'm at the end of my 3 year warrenty period on the G4 Powerbook and will need to head to upgradeville. I sub teach at the local schools so I do get a cool discount from Apple. Getting a cool education from all you Apple Heads here at the HAMB too....! Thanks.... a somewhat retired (somewhat out of the technology loop) one time advertising art director.

 

hey, that's neat! but of course the XT server just used an internal network interface (LAN) card, no external box to adapt it to the network.....

http://8088.eznos.org/links/

have fun!

 

yeah, it does.....but it's also free (did I say that?) and runs on very cheap hardware and does everything we need it to do.

Too bad it blows, but that's life.

 

That would be classic!

~Jason

 

the most traffic my site ever got (aside from the bush memo bs) was when my brother's watch was on /. there's a link to my site on his. Of course it was over in a matter of hours.....those guys have a short attention span.

 

Anyone who thinks they can surf the net on a Windows box and not catch anything is either lying or fooling themselves. When Yahoo and Myspace both have been found to be handing out spyware, you will get hit, the only difference is you may not know you have it.

However, you can easily and cheaply secure a Windows box without slowing it down or cramping your style.
Virus protection - Http://free.grisoft.com
Spyware protection - http://www.download.com - Spybot Search & Destroy
Adware protection - http://www.download.com - Ad Aware Se
After a reboot install http://winpatrol.com (free version). This gives you an install security system like Mac.


As for Macs, while I am a fan of them, they are overpriced. The low volume Apple sells combined with the amount of profit alone proves it. As does the failure rate, which is nearly 10 times what Dell's is.

Also, you can run OSX on a Dell.
It runs as well or better than it does on a Mac. In fact in many cases it even installs easier than Windows.



Mac is not impervious to virii, the person who said that due to the processor change they are more succeptible was correct, but sketchy on details. Mac on PPC used a highly modified BSD (Unix) core. On PC, it uses a more common (PC based BSD) core, combined with a more common processor means you now have far more people capable of writing a virus for it.

Mac has not been proven or even tested to show how many security holes there are. If you had as many people hacking it, as there are hacking Windows, Mac would fall just as easily. As it becomes more high profile, it will happen, or maybe not since Mac currently holds less than 3% of the PC market, and falling.

 

Those nixie watches ARE pretty badass.

~Jason

 

Uhhhh.. bullshit... price a comprable Dell, spec for spec, the Apple is no more expensive. As for the failure rate, again bullshit... Back up your bs....

In who's dreams... OSX does not install on a Dell.... Show me one case of a Dell out of the box that you can install 10.4 anything on...

Again bullshit, virii are written for the OS and not the processor. And the kernel is still the Mach Kernel regardless of wether it's for the Intel chip or PPC, it's only available in 2 places as it sits, OSX and Darwin... There are slight difference sin the compile for the different processors...

Actually it's more like 3% of new PC's and rising... Get your facts straight, and then there is the installed base which gets close to double digits... and don't forget that they're going out of business since 1979...

You guys and your bullshit trolling are mildly amusing at best. When you got a handle on what is really going on come back and play.

 

Someone's asking for it. Fortunately, I haven't the time for uneducated drivel like this from trolls who claim to know everything about something they haven't even touched in real life.

I call bullshit, and I'll leave it at that. I know enough than to be sucked into pointless arguments with the unwashed masses about things that, although blatantly untrue, will be beaten into the ground by the ignorant progenitors of said drivel.

~Jason

 

If you go head to head on top of the line yes, Apple is not overpriced, but how many people need a Quad Core Xeon for home use? Which by the way, a Core 2 Duo will actually beat in most benchmarks and applications (the primary exception is database applications). Most people use xeons for servers, which is where they belong.

Drop down to the more common systems, or laptops though. Other than a mini, Apple has nothing close. Have you looked at Dell Prices lately?

Dell Core 2 Duo desktops start at $389, laptops at $699
Minis start at $599 and have a Core Duo (not Core 2 Duo)

You have to get an Imac for Core 2 Duo which costs $999. Do not try to tell me a 17in LCD will add around $600 to the cost of a Dell. Those are not the cheapest Dell's you can buy.

This still does not take into account parts quality either. Look up the ram specs on a Mac. Mac’s use budget ram at best, same for many other components. The only reason the newer ones are better is Intel is dictating specs on some parts.

Mac have almost always trailed on new features as well. How long did it take to dual layer and 16x dvd?

Look into how many recalls Apple has had (discoloration, flaking paint, bad trackpads, overheating, burnt laps, buzzing, bad batteries... Yes the batteries are Sony's fault). The Macbook Pro alone has had over 4 revisions already to correct issues.
Or how about statistics on part failures.

Still looking for more stats but here are some with highlights:
Here are the Macintouch survey results, a Mac website.
http://www.macintouch.com/reliability/pmg5.html#results
“Overall average: 23% repaired"
“32% Power Macintosh G5/2.0 Dual Processor“
“29% Power Macintosh G5/1.8”

As well as Gartners results:
http://news.com.com/Gartner+PC+hardware+getting+more+reliable/2100-1005_3-6088143.html
" The annual failure rate for desktops in the first year of use has also decreased, from 7 percent to 5 percent."

I think this site would frown upon posting information about piracy however a good source of information on how to do it is located at www.insanelymac.com which is a research site for all things OSX.
(Note to mods the site linked does not contain anything violating Apple policy and does not condone piracy).

Also, try looking up OSX86 and Dell in your favorite search engine, you will find plenty. You can get it to run on almost anything with SSE2 or higher.

Darwin still uses a lot of BSD. While BSD is the most secure OS, it is still vulnerable. Especially when you pile another system on top of it (OSX).

By the way, Mach kernel is a Carnegie Melon BSD kernel. Check Wikipedia. In fact here is a good article that really outlines it. It is actually called XNU. It was developed for NextOS which became OSX.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xnu

Oops! The latest numbers are in I see. This one you got right.
7% for laptops. Up from 5%.
And up to almost 4% on desktops, gee, only half way to Linux.

Still a fringe OS since that does not count how badly Apple servers do, which still drops overall market share back to just below 3%.

I do not recommend letting market share dictate your purchase, not to mention the exact number was irrelevant. I was simply pointing out that if Macs were more common, they would be a more viable target. Which is why you may have 3 guys working on Mac viruses, but 50,000 working on ones for Windows. It still does not make OSX any more secure.

Security through obscurity is not security.

First, I am no Mac fanboy and I actually dislike Windows. If anything, I tried to be a voice of reason to the flood of people saying to just buy a Mac. A Mac is not the only sollution to spyware, protection is. There is no need to replace a computer just because of spyware if teh computer still serves you well.
Quit calling someone a troll just because you disagree. Or is it my FNG status that is burning you so bad, sorry, but post count does not equate to knowledge.

 

Maybe instead of saying I am uneducated and just casting me aside, look into the facts for yourself. You are not doing anyone any justice by continuing the lies yourself.

Without knowing who I am or what I do, how do you know for sure that your statements are any more true than mine.

I did not post my original post to start a flame war, just put a few facts out there. Nothing hostile was intended by it. Though at this point it appears I will look like the asshole no matter what I say or do.

 

What does it take to install OSX on a new PC ?