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Do it yourself woodgrain dash/int trim?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Russco, Nov 26, 2006.

  1. Russco
    Joined: Nov 27, 2005
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    I did a tech search but couldnt find anything does anybody have any experience/knowledge for doing this (its a 38 ford deluxe)
    thanks Mike
     
  2. Slammed88
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    I know an EXTREMELY inexpensive way to make a realistic wood-grain finish onto metal. I just wish I had a camera so I could make a tech post.

    All you need is two differert colors of spray paint, and some saran wrap. :D
     
  3. a/fxcomet
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    Jdee does that. From the pictures he has posted, it looks extremely nice.
     
  4. Slammed88
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    Yeah. It looks like real wood. All you do is spray the panel with the first color of paint, then spray the next color of paint onto that, and then lay the saran wrap on the panel and peel it off.

    I'll write a more detailed description on how to do this if anyone wants me to.
     
  5. Russco
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    Damn that was fast, sounds pretty good post some better details when you can and Thanks again
     
  6. Slammed88
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    No problem! I'll do a more detailed write-up on it for you, and either post it here or PM you with it when I finish. :)
     
  7. Automotive Stud
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    Do it man, do it! ;)
     
  8. hotrod mike
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    I'd also be interested in seeing how you do it. I know the basic principle. I've always used a piece of sponge. I'm doing Wurlitzer jukebox parts but the application should be the same. Here's a link for a place that sells kits to grain metal. http://www.woodgraining.com/ Mike
     
  9. I think Unkl Ian or someone did a how-to on this awhile back.You might want to try searching either previous posts or the tech archives.
     
  10. Von Quixote
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    Hey fellas...

    Wood graining isn't very hard and like everything, you only get better with practice.
    If your trying to match a particular type of wood (Oak, Birch, Maple) not only does color come into play, but so does grain.

    While the materials you'll use are different, the techniques are still the same. Here's a link to a hanful that's out there:
    http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/dc_faux_graining_combing/0,1792,HGTV_3400,00.html

    Here's a link to a supplier of wood graining tools - This is is provided purely as an example of what's out there.
    http://www.o-geepaint.com/Faux/graining.shtml

    your best friend will be the horse hair bristle brush, with it and a few others, your set. which ones those are are determined by the type of wood your trying to replicate.
    If you have a sample of what your trying to copy, then the rest is up to your skill.
    Technique determines the finished product, while your choice of materials, and preparation determine longevity. Find the technique that suits your need.
    After you've found a technique, try it on some practice surface, with the materials you intend to use, that has the same challenging undulations and radiuses that you'll undoubtably come across.

    Whiles there's many paints out there,I use One shot. It's easy to use, opaque, and wipes off with no fuss if your unhappy with the outcome.
    If you think you'll wanna play with acrylic polyurethane, god bless ya - but remember, that enamel that your repainting lasted this long.

    When enamel paint is too thick, use a REDUCER not paint thinner -paint thinner is a solvent, a cleaner, it breaks down the binding agents in the paint making all you hard work last half as long.

    Preperation is 90% of the job - still air, temperature, viscosity of paints all play a roll.

    A tack cloth is with the $2.00 10 times over after the first use.

    Fly Low, J
     
  11. theHIGHLANDER
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    I've been woodgraining since 1973. My Dad did it, my Grampa did it in the old elevators in downtown Detroit. There's a lot of truth to what Von Q says. There's also some secrets I've developed over the years. True, preparation is everything. Can I ***ume this is a hot rod? I ask for a reason...I need a guinea pig job to do something I've wanted to do for several years now. My cost runs around $125-150 per job. That's MY cost. I'd do it for a substantial discount of my regular fee if you want to have something special and unique. I've yet to see it ANYWHERE and wish to get it out there. PM me if you're interested. Below is a pic of one of my "regular" jobs in a Packard woody.
     

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  12. I airbrush woodgrain.Here are some pictures of my work.
     

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  13. hotrod mike
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    Damn... theHIGHLANDER, that's some beautiful work. Thanks, Mike
     
  14. Neo Dutch
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    Quik-eee Woodgrain Tech. This takes a bit of trial and error,and you gotta work quickly.

    1. Paint your piece with red oxide primer, and allow to dry.
    2. Use a lint free cloth, smear piece with thinned (turps) off-set printing ink. I use brown first.
    3. Using another cloth, wipe off most of what you just put on.
    4. Using a water colour fan brush. drag in your "grain". I use a black/brown mix for this.
    5. Before it dries take the cloth from step 3, and soften the edges of the grain.
    6. Optional step. For an added feature, use a spray bottle to mist turps on to the piece. I like to get as far away from the piece as possible. Put it on the ground and stand on a ladder.
    7. Bung on a coat of clear and stand back and bask in the adulation of others.
     
  15. Isn't there a way to do it too using something that burns smoky and sooty to make the grain? They've shown Chip Foose doing it that way in a couple episodes of Overhaulin' - looked like burning styrene plastic -
     
  16. thehighlander you are awesome!!!!!!I feel so useless now
     
  17. 1SWANK1
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    You could also contact Bill Bierman at Creative Customs in St.Louis.His # is 314-867-1395.He does excellent woodgraining!
     
  18. Chaz
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    Highlander...... Awesome !!!
     
  19. theHIGHLANDER
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    1st, thank you for the compliments guys. rusty'yorker, the trick is the ol 'cety torch gig. I'd imagine it might do OK on mldgs and dashes since you can tilt em to catch the soot. But it'd take a REEAALLL soft brush to make it work. Problem is it's only one color over a basecoat, and it's black. I don't wanna give up too much here but it takes a lot of combintions to get certain grains.

    Killer-d...killer airbrushin man.

    Here's another one for you artistic types. Autoair Colors works pretty damn good, but ya gotta playwith it to get it hold the grain. Washes off with PPG DX394 (a water based wax n grease remover) even days after it's dried. Topcoat with ANYTHING.
     
  20. noboD
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  21. Russco
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    Well I'm about as "artsy" as a brick but I'm gonna try it I'll get some practice pieces gathered up and try it I'll post my results hopefully later this week thanks for all the input once again the HAMB rocks!
     
  22. lucky 7
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    ok ,here is the easiest woodgrain trick ever..no pics,but listen close.paint your item with gold or beige paint..metallics work well.let dry.any type of paint will do.next, take a tack rag and dip it in darkwalnut wood stain.other colors work well,but i prefer this one..wipe the stain on the item in one direction.continue to wipe but do not re-dip the rag.stain drys very slow so you will have plenty of work time.as the stain begins to dry you will see the grain take shape.now practice and wear gloves..after the stain dries it can be cleared..have fun...john.
     
  23. Jdee
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  25. man-a-fre
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    Use an acetylene rich torch and brown paint and clear is all you need for realistic wood.
     
  26. Unkl Ian
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    1-Shot,straight out of the can,tacks up much too quickly
    when spread out real thin,for trying to do realstic woodgraining.
    So you have to find a way to increase the open time,
    without screwing up the drying,or causing other problems.

    For doing Walnut/Rosewood faux graining,I typically use
    at least 5 colors to get the effect I want.Not Concours correct,
    for restorations,but VERY convincing.
    ----
    A cool effect is Copper or Brown Pearl in Clear,over faux woodgrain.
    ----
    Acethelyne soot,and Saran Wrap or plastic bag tricks,look cool,
    but don't look anything like real wood.
     
  27. Unkl Ian
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    A nice glossy clear will make or break your woodgraining.
     
  28. bct
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    there is a tool called a wood grainer
     
  29. Unkl Ian
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    Those rocking rubber things ?

    I modified one,by cutting out every other rib,
    because someone told me it couldn't be done.

    Woked ok for doing rotary cut plywood looking patterns.
     
  30. 31ACoupe
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    Here is another link that is pretty cool on woodgrain painting.

    www.vintage-planet.com/woodgrainhowto.html

    good luck and go for it.....

    31acoupe
     

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