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Let's Educate the masses..!!! Chevy 235 vs. 250 differences

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by ESnacky6, Aug 4, 2004.

  1. ESnacky6
    Joined: Aug 28, 2002
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    Ok, I don't know everything about anything, never claimed to....

    But, I do know that the block and side covers, head, intake,
    and exhaust are completely different and NOT interchangable...

    Is there anything else, besides those obvious differences..??
    Just trying to help the board out, in case anyone is/was confused....

    Thanks alot..!!! -Snacks....


     
  2. KCMongo
    Joined: Jun 19, 2003
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    Bout the only thing the same is that they are Inline Sixes.
    They are very different motors, nothing I'm aware of is the same on them.
    They won't even bolt to the same ******s the 250 bolts up to standard SBC V8 stuff though..
    ****O
     
  3. FeO2
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    Anybody know what bellhousing I need to convert to open drive?
     
  4. Crestliner
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    55-61 should work.
     
  5. Yo Baby
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    Any old bell housing will do it's the TRANS that makes the Viva la Diferance`. [​IMG]
     
  6. Yo Baby
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    My Bad I forgot that The early bell only uses 4 bolts to the block and late uses 6. Sorry about that. the ****** still makes the diff. between open and closed drive. [​IMG]
     
  7. You can physically tell the difference because the open drive bell housings have a wider ****** bolt pattern. Like a lot wider. [​IMG]

    55-61 car or early (47-up) 3/4 ton and bigger trucks have the ones you need. 47 ******'s are floor shift, after 48 they are column shift, stock anyways.

    Jay
     
  8. Fat Hack
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    The one that runs is a 250! [​IMG]

     
  9. SLAMIT
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    The later sixes were I think 194,230,250 and then I think that the 292 came later. All are different than the earlier 216,235,261. I am not sure about that 292 though I dont quite remember where it fits in. Hope I didnt confuse you even more.

    SLAMIT
     
  10. Fat Hack
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    292 is a taller version of the 194,230 and 250 engines...torquey truck motor.

     
  11. ESnacky6
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    Thanks for all the info guys...!!
    pretty much what I'd thought....

    and Hack, you're a funny dude....
    "the one that runs"... Hahahaha..!!!


    Later, Snacks.... [​IMG]


     
  12. hotrodsnguns
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    Not trying to hijack the post but Free to a good HAMB home one 1974 inline 6 out of a camero 250 i think. It has one bad rod bearing but i think the crank will polish out not need to be turned. complete engine less carb and alternator.

    pm me for details it must be picked up i will not delever or ship.
     
  13. snacky check your pms.
     
  14. Smokin Joe
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    Is the 292 Chevy the same block as the big GMC?
     
  15. ESnacky6
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    I really don't think so.....


     
  16. willowbilly3
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    Tyhe 235 was installed in the 62 models also. The real early ones still had babbit rods (53 with standard shift)
    I think the big jimmy (270) is all by itself for parts.
    The 250 is a great engine as is the 230, I have spanked the **** out of both as a kid. Stay away from the later 250 head with the integrated exhaust manifold, or at least ****can the head for an older one. The 292 has some heuvos and can be built but it is a gas hog even in stock form. The best running one I was around was one a friend had in a dirt track modified. He had a small chamber 194 head on it with 4 bble and headers. He had the typical problem with the pressed on harmonic balancer and finally ended up with it welded on.

    All this said the 300 ford is still my favorite straight six. I sure wouldn't p*** on a built 270 with a horning head tho.
     
  17. tomslik
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    i don't need it but it did remind me of the 1 peice head/intake 250's.
    FYI,guys, the short blochk is the same as all the rest of the 250's but pitch the head.
    pretty worthless even if it ain't cracked...and they usually are.
     
  18. Donzie
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    I'm currently running a '70 (?) 250. Single bbl and split exhaust. I was thinking of changing over to a 2x1 intake and replacing the PG ****** for a 350. Instead, should I look for a 292 or just go the route I'm on? I don't want a gas hog as this is pretty much my daily driver, but I would like something pretty snappy.
     
  19. stan292
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    Gents-

    If you want a good basic primer on Chevy sixes - and an incredible amount of specifics regarding high-performance mods to the 292 C.I. motor (the one to get if your considering anything other than laid-back cruising or "period-perfect" applications), pick up a copy of "Chevrolet Inline Six Cylinder Power Manual" by Leo Santucci.

    I happens to be on sale at the moment at Amazon.com for under $15.
     
  20. Fat Hack
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    I know I represent the minority (what else is new? [​IMG])...

    ...but I LIKE the integral head on the later 250 sixes! No intake leaks...cuz there's no bolts to loosen up all the time...I've had PLENTY of both...and always had better luck with the later integral head design.

    It's the best bet if you're just gonna run one factory style carb...and the Holley Economaster carb (a replacement for the stock 1v) is a killer choice for better mileage AND performance!

    Had a 78 Nova with a 250...all stock except for a recurved HEI distributor, the Holley Economaster 1v, a chrome air cleaner and a turbo muffler. It was faster than most stock V8 smoggers!



     
  21. slioderinwa
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    Donzie,Think about how many miles on engine before you put the dollars in of course. Increasing carb size i would want to use a better cam. (Slightly larger) If you do the after market 4bbl intake, keep the carb size down. 500 cfm max. I like your two /ones better!!!!If you have good headers ( Clifford, hedman, Fenton etc,) and exhaust system, think about a recurve on the dist. Better air filter system and leave it at that. I am building a 250 , and will use the 700r4 trans with it. I have had great service from the 700r4. Got to rig them right, And never tow in overdrive!!!!
    And yes My "Leo Santucci" book will be here this week.
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