Freakin dirtbags!! I hate thieves

Root,
It does indeed sound as if your Grandpa is a wise man.





........but I'm not 95 yet.

Someone steps in my home and its lights out.

For those who are worried about bullets going through the walls into your neighbor's house, I believe you can get shells that shoot rock salt for a shotgun....maybe?

I'm pretty sure you can get "bird shot" or something of the sort for a .22 pistol.

I'm not a gun fanatic, so I don't know.....I'm just saying there could be "safer" alternatives to shooting up the neighborhood.

Smokin' Joe's mom sounds like she pretty much has her shit together.

...and like others have said, the sound of a shotgun racking is kind of distinct, and scary. Many times, there's not a need to shoot.

 

Well Chris, sounds like your Grandpa has it figured out. Great attitude. I can't get over the crap you guys tend to catch. Just not right. Life's not fair though. Don't need to tell you that.

 

Tingler, I am not that wise either. Maybe if I make it to 95 my outlook would be more somber.

Kerry, that's why I am changing my name to Lucky LeGrange.

 

They should take guys like that and take into center of town and kick the crap outa them. Never mind jail just sidewalk labodamy. Thats the lowest of the low. John

 

Good to hear Gramps came out of it ok.

Being a firearms enthusiast, I'll start there first. A sawed-off is NOT a good idea. Violates about 4 federal laws, and we don't want family members going to federal prison over a $200 tax bill. If you're going the weapons route yep, a twelve guage pump. Number 7.5 shot won't penetrate over one layer of 1/2" plywood. Even a .22 will go deeper than that. I suggest load it with a rubber round as the first shot, and real stuff after that. ( The rubber rounds are available as three large balls, or a "beehive" of BB-sized shot. It also shows that you chose a non-lethal means of defense as a first choice)
DO NOT use home reloads or rock salt. The legal ramifications are a nightmare.
For the more frail family members, or women, there's a .410, semi-auto shotgun that's made by a Russian firm by the name of Saiga. The action is based off the AK-47, uses a four-round box mag, is reasonable light and better for control by a weaker user. (I will admit, though, that a pump action's noise at 2am does have a very distinct behavioral modification factor concerning intruders.)

Now....I suggest you install a solid-core entry door, with a GOOD deadbolt as his bedroom entry. Also get him into the habit of locking it at night. This will be his defensive safe room that allows him some decent security. Does he have a cellphone? If not, get him one. He then has a means of calling for help, should an intruder disable the
house phones. I suggest you still get him a .410 pump as a last means of defense, and train him with it. If some SOB does get through the solid-core, he means business, and your Grandfather should also mean business.

Now, personally, I like the idea of a frangible .22 round in the kneecap. Make damn sure that "goblin" remembers, FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE, what happened to him, why it happened, and who did it. Also, before the LEO's get there, make damn sure that the goblin knows you will be a whole lot less "friendly" if you EVER see his sorry ass again.

Just my .02.

Roger

 

Some good info, but a sawed off shotgun is legal.....if you saw it to the legal limit. I add a quarter inch both ways to be sure. And the only way to stay outta jail is if you shoot someone, shoot to kill, and make sure it appears your life was in danger. Dead men STILL tell no lies.

 

Now....I suggest you install a solid-core entry door, with a GOOD deadbolt as his bedroom entry. Also get him into the habit of locking it at night. This will be his defensive safe room that allows him some decent security.

Only problem with that is if there is a fire in the house and he is overcome by smoke no one can get to him!

 

Sons of a bitches, mama didn't raise 'em right.

 

nah, Firefighters have a way of persuading ANY door open.

take, for example the "hooligan bar", what firefighters call em, Halligan bar is its real name... makes short work of most doors and or windows.



or, a simple battering ram... 30,000# of blunt force makes for an acceptable "key" to any locked door

 

I love this kinda thinkin!Except for the dog part.We got a Pit that'll hump the shit outta the bastards during the whole torture process!Kill the first one,and hope the word gets out!Seriuosly though,glad to hear that trash didn't hurt no one!

 

Get him a can of Bear Spray( Sprays out to 20 feet ). The stuff will drop a Grizzley to his knees. My wife and daughter keep a can near the bed and carry it in the car when they travel. You can get the stuff, on Ebay, Get the big can, it has more range. Afetr you spray the miscreant and hes incapacitated youcan tenderize him with a baseball bat

 

Hey Mate,

Sorry to hear about your story. To be honest, hearig all the gun stories makes me glad I live here. The only thing I need to take to bed with me is a hot woman.

Danny

 

what traves said!!!!sep, im not a trucker!!!im a farmer!!close enough!!!start spreadin rumors bought how rich grm=amps is , then when they show up the 3 of us can....well what fiddy said!!!

 

The pricks Mama as you put it, was probably a jaded, man hating, divorced, crack Hoe who "raised" their kids hating the world and all in it. Not all people out there DESERVE to be parents. Defecating in your victims home after such a serious crime is seriously sick and depraved and this prick shoulda fried....FULLSTOP.

Why else would there be no respect for the Generation who kept these kids being able to live in the country that they enjoy today and take for granted. I work with a lot of these people and I genuinely feel sad for our older generation, they went through a lot for the collective good only to see what the world has become. SAD.....

Its nice to know that its not only in Oz that the fucking crims have more rights than the people the hurt, violate and degrade.

Im have six guns that are all registered, and they have to be locked in a steel cabinet with ammo stored in a seperate location. The idiots in Govt here have only made it harder for law abiding citizens to defend themelves in their own homes and made it easier for the assholes who need some lead in the ass to assualt them in their own home.

As for the justice system here, its a farce too - the crim gets to pick a jury they feel would be in their best interest. I think its a miracle we even get convictions here.

We can thank our do good, politically correct asshole politicians who only give a rats about votes and dont represent society - or maybe they actually do, given what society has become?

Food for thought...

Rat

 

I'm live in Montana and a local retired detective told me to have everyone in my house know how to use any of my shotguns and most important if its going to go down make sure to unload a round in the door header frame or ceiling between you and the intruder. Not as much a warning as it is to make sure the safety is off and its ready to go.

s.

 

You wish!

My sister used to work at the grocery store and got sprayed during a robery. When she realised she'd been sprayed and it had no effect, she laughed at the guy so loud that he took off without any money. Of course, the effects kicked in later.

Imagine how Mr.Crackhead would feel after being sprayed... As far as I'm concerned, these cans are shit that will get you killed.

 

that's my thinking too man...i have a sterling .22 auto with velocitor gold dot HP rounds next to my bed thanks to the somewhat questionable neighborhood i live in. just a few nights ago there were about 8 cops out looking for someone and there have been a couple shootings within a couple blocks of me in the last year. it may be a little gun, but it thinks it's a .45 with the blast and recoil from those velocitors. those things will grenade a cantaloupe nicely...

 

So sorry to hear the bad news. Just praise God that gramps is ok.

 

I'm glad your Grandfather is okay. I think the suggestion of a basic alarm system is good and a panic button perhaps in a few places. In addition a local bell or one loud fucking siren wouldnt hurt either.
Ralph

 

2 weeks ago here, there was a 73 year old man who shot and killed a high school punk who broke into his house. From what I've been told, He was kind of a hermit. I have been past the old mans house...looked abandoned. A guy who works for my wife actually lives right around the corner from him. The police don't know if it was an attempted robbery, or if HS kids thought it was an empty house and dared someone to go in. All that matters is when the kid who broke in reached the old mans bedroom upstairs...BOOM! the old man shot him dead. No charges will be filed against the old man, and there's one less punk in the world!
The article in the paper had an interview with the kids stepmom who actually knew the old man from the Burger King she worked at. She said he was a nice guy, and that she didn't blame him for what he did. That was a real surprise!

 

Glad to hear he's OK. Got some extra firepower around if you need a back-up.

 

Root
thank god grandpa is OK..

 

If you're going to shoot someone, kill them. Otherwise just go ahead and play Patty Cake with them. "Mr Smith, it appears you shot him in the torso, but can you tell me why are there also pellets lodged in the floor on both sides of the intruder's head?" Certainly; he was still moving. I wanted to be sure that he didn't get up and attack me from behind while I was walking to the phone to call you, or pull out a gun and get a shot off at my wife or son when they came down the stairs to see what all the noise was.

I heard kids creaping around under my apartment window when I lived in Florida. I had a pump .410 with a full magazine and a shell on the dresser. I left the action open, with gun next to the dresser. I walked up to the window (pitch black), and watched the kids for a second. Slid the shell into the chamber and slid the action. Sliding that action shut made them INSTANTLY scatter like roaches. Nothing in the world sounds like it.

Brad

 

i never met my grandpa cause mom wouldnt let me. he was a bad, bad man. if these guys had picked his house they would have died. once him and his young wife were buying something in the grocery store. there were a few kids blocking the aisle and when stan asked them to step aside one of the teens said "god damn you old man" stan looked at the kid and said "you're right boy, the only one who can damn me is God" then he beat the shit out of the kid and tossed him up in the meat display. thats probably one of the nicer stories i have about that man.

 

Whoo Hoo, way to revive a 6 year old thread