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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by zimm, Dec 3, 2006.

  1. Gnashty1
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  2. The height from front sump (Pinto/MII) oil pan to top of oil fill cap = ~25".

    The length from front of water pump pulley to rear of block = ~24".

    The width from the outer side of the head to the outer side of the lower intake manifold = ~14". Add exhaust, maybe turbo to that.

    T5 and bellhousing = ~32".

    Thanks,
    Kurt
     

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  3. farmer_joe620
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    my dad has a 2.3 in his courier. awsome little engine!

    hes bored it 20 over, shaved the head .011, hogged out the ports, hogged out the intake, adapted a 42mm SU to the intake, and built a header for it. its also got a decent cam in it also.

    damn thing will scoot right along with the 5 speed.

    heres a pic. not pretty at all, but it get the work done.
     

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  4. Omega
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    I have a 86 ford tempo ''high performance'' version, and it has a 2.3 PUSHROD engine, no overhead cam here,just a straightup pushrod engine. it makes about 100horse,. it isnt based on the pinto 2.3 as far as i can tell, its a pretty sweet motor, teamed with the ''sport'' auto trans the car is really quick for a shitbox. im pulling the motor now, hopefully il have it out soon, and il snap some pics.




    as far as the pinto/mustang 2.3's, stay away from the A4LD auto trans, ts the most shittiest tranny you will ever come in contact with. I ve gone through 3 of them on my 93 notchback 2.3. (only temporary anyways, till the 302 is done)
     
  5. leon renaud
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    Can anyone posting to this thread set us up a chatroom?I have always like the "Pinto 4s"but haven't built one up in a long time the last I built was a 74 turbo 2.3 but using a paxton blower inplace of the turbo.I'm getting ready to build a later version of this engine but with an svo turbo engine with fuel injection.This will be my first time working with injection and it sure would be nice to have a chat room of like minded folks to talk to ,If I was computer literate I'd set one up but as it is I don't have a clue how to!Anyone else interested in live chat about these mills ?
     
  6. Yankeyspeed
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    Thanks SGT

    I am little worried about the getting the breather to fit under the hood but after looking at some of the pics I think I can keep from bumping the hood.


    Check here for some reference. http://www.rothfam.com/svo/reference/
     
  7. Tulsa oldskool55
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    You can get tons of gofast goodies for the 2.0/2.3 fords.You can also get a 2.0 head that will fit the 2.3 block and not have to worry bout the end ports being at an angle.also you can get dual sidedraft webber carbs,carrillo rods,with a good balance job I had one that would rev 9k and lived on the street.hit me up if you want any more info
     
  8. tjm73
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    Which head is this? I've never heard of this option before.......
     
  9. Henry Floored
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    TJM,

    The carburated Ranger versions of the 2.0/2.3 U.S. built fours in the `80's utilized this head. They are pretty plentiful and I think Esslinger has manifolds to accomodate this head with different carb types. Don't confuse the 2.0/2.3 U.S. engine with the earlier Euro made Ford 2.0 of the early `70's. They are both great engines and usually run rings around any other four you can build for the price but they are different.
     
  10. Henry Floored
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  11. AHotRod
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    Great info and reading.
    Thanks
     
  12. Omega
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    Thx Henry!!!! i did not know that, this makes a rebuild alot easier when i do it. Know anything about the belhousing? i wanna use a differant trans obviously for RWD or a boat... so, does it use the straight 6 belhousing also? I did notice where the EGR tube is..or some form of emissions canister is, it mounts to a plate that blocks a spot to use a mechanical fuel pump also.
     
  13. pikesan99
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  14. Yankeyspeed
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    Any new pics of that turbo A that going together. Mine has stalled due to the Plymouth getting a 700R4.
     
  15. really awesome mod for a 2.0 is a cosworth YAC twin cam head. I used to run a sports 2000 car for a guy in the American Cities Racing League with one of these engines. Pic, kind of a shitty angle of the head (really good angle of the headers I was building for it!! haha), anyway, the cars ran awesome and made about 220hp with a mild tune and 45mm dcoe weber sidedrafts. These heads are somewhat available since the serries that ran the engines folded a few years ago, and for a early in thier lives they were prone to valve failure, when the valves would break they would usually ding up the combustion chamber but would be completely fixable via a little welding but the sactioning body didn't want any "combustion chamber modifications" so welding up a head and reshaping the combustion chamber was out, but I did weld up a few and sell them to svo mustang and merkur guys for street cars.
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  16. zimm
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    witch n/a head flows the best? i have a d port and a round port to choose from not sure on there years i figured i clean the ports up some
     
  17. tjm73
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    I seem to recall reading the D-port head was better, but can't say for absolute. I have a photocopy at home from a HOD ROD article in the mid 80's I think about the 2.3 for performance. I think I read it there.
     
  18. That's a good idea, starting a HAMB club for 2.0-2.3 there's quite a few people running these motors.
    I second the motion.......any other's ?
     
  19. Yankeyspeed
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    Im in. The Plymouth is now sporting 2x4s so I will need something that gets better MPG.
     
  20. I'm finishing a 26 track-T project...using the entire 2.3 engine/turbo/T5/rear-end out of an 83TurboCoupe T/Bird...with a few mix/match Ford parts,tweaking the turbo,tubing header,custom roller cam it should be 250-275 HP..sould be a real hoot in #1600 lb car

    BTW ,heres a link to a site with a ton of info: http://www.turboford.net

    From what I read ,these 2.3 bottom ends will stand a lotta HP as is..
     
  21. Lee-mk2
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    Hi,
    I am new hear - I found the site while searching for pinto / cosworth info - and was wondering what the dif. are between the ford pint engine 1.6 and 2.0 available in the UK and the pinto engines in the US?:rolleyes:
     
  22. RichFox
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    I believe the 1.6 pushrod motor is the Kent engine used in lots of Cortinas and such. The 2 liter OHC motor is the German Capri motor with lower compresion. The 2.3 and 2.0 dervitives of the 2.3 I'm told are US engines.
     
  23. metalshapes
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    The Kent was made as a Pushrod Engine with the intake & exhaust on the same side from just under 1 litre to 1500cc
    And as a X-flow, as a 1100cc, 1300cc, and a 1600cc.
    ( and some weird derivatives made in Spain I believe )

    The same basic block was used for Cosworth MAE ( Formula3 ) 1000cc Screamers, Lotus twincam, Cosworth FVA, and the BDA.

    The Overhead Cam 4Cyl Was sold as a 1600 and a 2000 in Europe.
    The 2000 was used in the early pinto's as well, but the 2300 is different.
    One of the differences is the bore spacing, I believe...
     
  24. RichFox
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    I had a 2000 Pinto in the little blue roadster to the left. It went 14.26 @ 98 mph at Freemont and 128 at El Mirage. I replaced it with a 2000 Lotus 907 (Jensen-Healey) and went 142 out the back on the 3 mile course on the salt. The Pinto was pretty neat, but I liked the Lotus better.
     
  25. usedall9
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    This is great.....Just brought home a FREE low milage 2.0....I'm stoked on it..Keep this sh%t comming
     
  26. leon renaud
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    what ever happened to forming a modern 4 banger HAMB group?I have several 4s waiting to go in projects Ford 2.3s and GM 2.5s
     
  27. Lee-mk2
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    What really caught my eye was the YAC cosworth head. Does this fit the euro pinto block or was it for the US engine? I already have a modified pinto ie cam, headwork overbore, twin 45 DCOE's and was wondering if the YAC might be another option - I have been considering building a N/A cosworth YB.

    Cheers.
     
  28. 1950ChevySuburban
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    I've got 2 projects going on with a Ford 2.3, both need a factory steel oil pan, rear sump. Anyone got one laying around? The aluminum one hits the Nash crossmember.
     
  29. leon renaud
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    what do you want for the aluminum pan I have steel ones I'm willing to part with.Trade?
     
  30. RichFox
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    I think there is a Cosworth head that fits the Escort block. Was sold as the Ford Serria over there. Plenty fast.
     

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