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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by redoxide, Jan 5, 2007.

  1. redoxide
    Joined: Jul 7, 2002
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    Any one used them ? I have a set and they look good buit unfortunately I dont have any info on them such as what is the origins of the brake cylinders and shoes/ hardware. dont know if its my imagination but they dont look like they are 12 inch as per the buick drums..never got round to taking a tape to them to check..nice stuff though, just hope they work.. any tips, any feed back?
     
  2. "Doc" Parsons
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    Hey redoxide, if they are Wilson welding parts they use Buick cyl's and shoe's I have a set on my hot rod and they work great
     
  3. Flat Ernie
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    Ian - Kev (Limey) had some on his roadster w/Buick drums & he liked them.

    I assume you've seen their website - pretty basic & crude by most standards & no online ordering.
    http://www.wilsonweldingandmachine.com/
     
  4. famous59
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    from dallas, tx

    Wilsons has a top notch product, knowing Mr Wilson and watching him produce this product you should have no problem with them. Look at the website for the info you need, if still in doubt give him a call. He is a real down to earth person...

     
  5. Ryan
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    Bob Wilson rules... Not only does he develop some of the best traditional hot rod parts on the planet, but he is also one hell of a good guy. Can't say enough good things about him or his stuff...
     
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  6. squirrel
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    can you say "oxymoron"?

    :)
     
  7. Bass
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    Bob only makes 12" brakes. Do you have the Lincoln style or the finned aluminum backing plates?

    If you have any questions, you should feel free to give him a call. Earlier in the day (Central time zone) is the best time to get him while he's in the shop.

    You'll never meet a nicer guy or a more talented craftsman than Bob Wilson.
     
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  8. Apparently I don't know what the trick is, I've called to buy things about 6 different times and nobody ever answers the phone.


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  9. redoxide
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    I bought the Wilson Welding Buick finned backplates secondhand but unused complete with cylinders and shoes etc, then contacted wilson welding to buy the front hubs direct, and had no problems. Each time I cantacted the company I recieved a responce from Bobs Buddy which was fine I dont ever expect a one man opperation to find time to respond to too many requests, they would never get anything done, I know this from experiance LOL...

    The furthest I got to looking over the parts so far has been to fit the backplate/ shoe assembly to the drum ( on the bench) and it looked like there was a ton of clearance more than you would expect even before adjustment. Like I said though it was just basically a fit together so the parts could be kept in one place then stashed in the loft in the garage ..

    Im just trying to have a heads up on any set up/ adjustment tricks to make the fitting as smoooth as silk before I come to fit them for real ..

    I have another thread running trying to seek opinions and comparisons on running a traditional front, beam axle etc as opposed to a M11 front end, seeking to find the advantages and disadvantages of each .

    The wilson welding brakes will be fitted to the I beam if I go that route, and just wanted to know how well the parts worked together, and what kind of performance the WW brakes provided..

    I was advised at one point from Bobs buddy that the shoes and cylinders were off a big ford but that was kind of vauge, and a post on here mentions they are Buick Parts, so looking for confirmation on that score ..

    Ive been to the web page a few times, the last time i seem to recall it was re vamped but it was still prety much product based with no real spec tech.

    I love the parts to bits, just need the info for future maintainance should I choose to use them, or for the info of anyone I may decide to sell them too if I dont.

    While on the subject can anyone advise on the best stud/ bolt to use with the drum/ wilson welding hub set up..and where I can buy them mail order ..

    thanks again.
     
  10. Flat Ernie
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    Taking advantage of a weak dollar, Ian? ;)

    Were the self-adjusters assembled completely closed on your brakes? If so, that's where the majority of your excess space is coming from. With all new components, you can expect at least 1/2" of threads exposed on the self-adjuster/star-wheel assembly...

    Sorry I'm no help on the components or studs...

    Cheers!
     
  11. Terry O
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    Try his cell (posted on his web page) 214-662-9483, he's pretty good about answering it.

    Terry
     
  12. LIMEY
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    Ian PM me & i'll pass you my phone number, Ernie is right i put a set on my roadster.......wow did that cure a problem. I've just bought another set for my '39 cos i liked them so much & they are piss easy to fit especially if you use Bob's hubs too.
    The parts are all Buick & i have all the part numbers for shoes & cylinders, also i have a part number for a brake hose thats available over here.
    Ryan is right Bob is one of the most decent guys you'll ever want to deal with.

    Kev.
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  13. Flat Ernie
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    Kev - you gonna run the finned plates on the '39? Shame to hide 'em like that! Lincoln plates would be better - or even F250 (I may have an extra set).
     
  14. Bob is a good guy! (we dutch guy's drove up there last spring)
    Wen he sells a set and puts it in a box, he puts in the boxes the cilinders and the shoes came in, so you have the part no's.

    I didn't buy annything, my pal did..........but he gave me a t-shirt and a single buick finned brake drum. (didn't find an other one at the pate swapmeet)
     

  15. Looks great. Post up the part numbers here.


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  16. HotRodMicky
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    redoxide,
    if you go MII , i would buy your Lincoln brakes......
    Michael
     
  17. redoxide
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    Ernie, Thatll be the fix, I was aware that the adjuster was scewed in but with the pitch never thought they would screw out that much.. never gave it a second thought realy just stashed em till the time come to find out more ( time has come )

    Limey, I have the whole shebang from WW hubs plates sheas cylinders etc found it hard to believe the hubs were so reasonable priced for the work and material thats gone into them. what bolts/ studs did you use in your fitment? I bought mine new unused second hand off the NSRA web site over a year ago, cant remember who from though?

    Ernie, Im planning to out mine UNDER the fenders of a 36.. Not that I would know but its probably like wearing expensive underwear ,, no one sees it but it makes you feel good.!

    Micky, mine are Buick backplates as the pic above, havent made a final desision yet .. still tweaking the build plan hence the recent posts..but will keep you in mind
     
  18. Flat Ernie
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    So like when I wear my wife's underwear then, eh? ;)

    I'd call Bob re: the studs unless someone has the p/n handy.
     
  19. HotRodMicky
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    redoxide,
    yeah i know.
    Michael
     
  20. krylon32
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    I'm doing 2 deuces now with Wilson Lincolns front and rear using Buick drums. There were empty boxes the the shipping box that had contained the consumable hard parts, so it was easy to make a record of the parts. I sold 2 deuces to a guy in LA several years ago, the roadster had Wilson Lincolns and the 5 window had SO-Cal discs. The roadster stopped so good that he replaced the SO-CAL discs with Wilson Lincoln brakes.
     
  21. I put a set on the '34 a couple of years ago.
    Had to mount them on the Bridgeport and mill out a slot at the bottom (and TIG weld a patch onto the inside 'cause it was a DEEP slot) to clear my Chassis Engineering dropped spindle arms, but other than that, they worked out great.

    Stops better, too.
     
  22. redoxide
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    Desoto, Thanks for that, something to look out for .. good to know they have stoping power too..
     

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