This is a what if post I have a friend, that needs some money ..Kind of quick He has a custom/Harley/bobber /softtail thing from my looking into it ..He wants more than its worth Gut feeling, surge is way over ..I would be out maybe 10% of real value .. Any chance of it ever coming back, or because he is my close friend should I just step up and pay him the extra ..just cause or should I OFFER ..what its worth I'm not a scooter bum..It is nice most likely not ride it much, just garage art How would you feel if a buddy A) offered less b) said no c) fill in the blank
d) send me the money so i can finish my truck, and i'll let you use it for garge art every third weekend!
With the new 96CI engines and 6 speeds seems like no one wants the older bikes. I am having trouble getting $15K out of my 05 Roadglide with 6K miles on it.
it is ***led as a 2006 -CUSTOM -"UTLIMA" Has 80's something fat bob tanks soft tail 96 inch S and S motor 5 speed 21 inch front 80 spoke ,Harley springer front blinged out ..wants 10 grand ... has reciept for $13,800 but market dipped
ooohhh...tough one. I vote for offer him what it's worth to you...I mean really, how often are are you gonna get on it and go do something short of going to check the mail? My suggestion. Tell him that you will give him what he's asking, but in the form of a LOAN. he has to pay you back, and you get a toy in the mean time. in the event he balks at it, let him know you haven't bought a bike because you really don't want one, and you are making this offer to help him out, otherwise, another buyer may be in his best interest.it's an honest, open handed attempt at help that doesn't let you take a bath. I wouldn't expect any of my friends to want to give me more than something is worth. or, if you actually want the silly thing, just think of it as a 2 wheeled boat. hole on the asphault you throw money into.
Great question. I bet we are all on one side of that question sometime in our life and on the other side sometime as well. If buying, I'd make sure I knew the approximate market value first, even maybe involving others to value it, and make sure that the friend also knew openly and honestly. Maybe you joinltly pick the at least 2 folks to evaluate it. I wouldn't buy much below and might buy slightly above market value. And, whether I loved the bike or not, I'd make it sound like I bought it cause I'd always admired it, wanted one, and this would fit well. That way I'd separate friendship from the transaction to the degree possible. Underpay 10 or overpay 10%, not an issue. Only engage if you can really spare it. Make it appear that that's the absolute end of your spendable wad, also. Clearly both of you then know the value, you are not a pawnshop nor are viewed as such, and he gets what he needs without additional trauma. Just my view....
ha! so long as we're throwing cash around, buy my Wagon so I can buy this Mondello olds motr I found for cheap.
what if he is real ,real, real close...... friend .and he might , maybe lose his home .. and I can juggle money and afford to let it be home with me I'll not borrow, once bitten twice shy I'm tween a rock and hard place here Most I'll lose it like $1000 right .. Not more it is a rideable piece
If you want to make money, offer 8K. If you don't, tell him to trade it in in a Caravan. Market is soft. **** is hard to insure. He asked for offers, kick him in the balls. Ray
If he is a real friend- dont do anything..... Let him take his "beating" out of your neighborhood,He'll be better off and so will you.....
Big Dad the problem is its not a true Harley. The S&S motor is prob. better than gene Harley but its still not. Its Kinda like buying a Brookville 32. And Yes the bottom has really fell out on bikes.
Nope. Pontiac. but at this point in the evening, I have a 72 cuda, a 69 Charger r/t se (440 4 speed) and a horrible 70's valiant I would drive to you to bury if any of 'em ran. The Road runner I would probably keep. let's just say I didn't have a good mopar day at all. unless you have a spare set of mopar performance Rocker arm adjusting screws laying around...did you know indy cylinder heads have a ****load more spring tension on thier 440 e/z heads than a stocker? even if you told them your hydraulic cam's lift and such? and that the increase in spring pressure won't kill the cam- it will instead kill mopar performance adjuster screw/bolt/whatchamacallits? and you gotta buy hardened ones? me neither.
Man, there are a LOT of "what ifs" to this scenario of yours. Here's how I see it. He's a bro or uncle or brother in law and you want, but not look like you're offering help. Maybe you wnat to save face or cushion his pride. If this is the case and you feel like it's the right thing to do given the personalities involved then buy the bike and take the $1000 loss you mentioned. If you don't want to take the loss, don't. Offer what you're confident you can get out of it. Sounds like the dilemna is this; what's the $1000 mean to you vs. what it means to Mr Hypothetical and his situation? Act according to your gut.
alright, admit it. you're talking yourself into it. Just do it and let it be done-but you gotta tactfully explain that this is the only (or last,depending) time. I would explian how to say it, but tact has never been my strong suit. I have a question, though. how did he go from buying Custom bikes to losing roof over head in less than a full year? no need for gory details, but was it nature or nurture? are you paying for his mistakes, or did he contract space herpes?
If you are related and the rest of the clan knows you have the coin to save him...you are so between a rock and a hard spot. I say put the funds up and if the bike is what he is offering take it but also tell him you want a quick claim deed which will not be exercised unless funds are not paid back in a timely manner. You need to set the guidelines and he/she needs to step up to the plate and keep their word...enough said as situations like this destroy families in a Montana minute which is about zero. Good luck in your gut feeling quest.
yeah, he don't post or on here ..might lurk Don't want to kick a man when he is down I'd post pics but he sent them to me as BMP and site wont accept I don't know how to change them to size limit that will take Just a , how far should one person go to help another kind of thing General discussion
I have a bunch of "ductile iron stuff" laying around sold all my harland not to sharp junk Post pic of what you need ,might have it laying in my junk Juast bought my BIG EASYS //but they are on my motor with T and D rockers
I actually managed to get it handled today...and T and D stuff is what I ended up ordering. they (apparently) make a non tapered adjusting bolt with a lock nut that is hardened as an adapter for the Iron. if I were running a roller in this one, I would have gone with thier set up straight away. (however, sounds like I probably should have done that to begin with. try to save a customer a nickel...ends up costing me a dime.) oh well, such is life. Nice motor! I am looking for Stock 69 non chrome valve covers,though. the chrome ones on this motor drive me clammy. and to the subject at hand, I have to agree with the "go with your gut" thing. sounds like you're a phone call away from being a harley owner anyway. I'm sure it will be a blast in the summer! unlike now, when I pity the fool on a bike in this miserable ****.
yah . . I would not mind having a scooter , just not my deal I'm too old anymore to really want to be out ****ing around in traffic with some dip****s ---I'm a cager I have some old grey beards to ride with here, suppose it would be fun enough to ride now and again I just don't cut corners on engine parts anymore the Tand D stuff was like $1300 for rockers/etc real nice parts , just by looking you see value ' but not everyone wants that kind of junk Plenty of fast stuff with old skool parts I have had my fill
Well, like others have said, if you want to help the guy , even at your slight expense, then do it. I think you should propose the idea of two "appraisals" from other folks, and then average them to be the price you would be willing to pay. Don't tell the appraisal folks the situation, let them be as independent as possible. They should be knowledgeable and impartial. They don't have to be profressionals, just someone that could help you reach a price that is market fair. That way either you or the seller do not have any hard feelings. Helpipng out a real good friend is a good thing to do, sometimes we make sacrifices for them because it is the right thing to do. You decide if that is what is the path you want to take and can afford to do it. The loan idea with the bike as collateral is a good one also.
Here's what set my alarm off and the clincher (for me) ok I'm gonna come across as the hard *** here, but if I was ready to loose my house I wouldnt be asking for more than it was worth, especially if I knew the market value and the other party knew the market value. basically, look at it this way, you think an average joe is gonna pay him more than its worth? you know the answer to that. that said if your gonna help him out, help him out and take the hit, but know that your taking the hit and be ok with it...if you know your gonna loose and your alright with it, then go for it. If there is gonna be any animosity about it, then walk away. I make it a policy that I dont do heavy deals with family or friends, I typically always loose my *** when I do, so now....I dont do it unless I can afford too, 99.9% of all deals I do with folks I know is small time horse tradin ****, the few major deals I got involved with family didnt work out so good...
I know I'm going to lose .. kind of ok with that more like, has it hit bottom ? Anyone have any idea if 1 year from now will it be worth ljust a gut feeling ,It is worth right now like $9000 real money ---wants 11,000 will take 10
if it's worth nine, offer eight. After all, it's his house, not yours he's losing. At***ude seems to need a re-adjusting. Last tikme I checked, there weren't too many bedrooms or bathrooms on a bike.
I agree, thats what I meant to say in the first place.... it seems to me (here's the hard *** commin out) that he doesnt need the money bad enough that he is willing to risk losing his house over a sour nich in the market, ESPECIALLY when he has a potential buyer that he doesnt have to spend the money to advertise the bike in dfferent venues (that gets real expensive real quick) and possibly ship the bike as well (h***le factor) If I was going for a family type deal (and I was him) I'd be bringin it down a notch not up a notch for those reasons alone, quick cash that is easy cash (and honest cash at that) is good cash....
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