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CANDY PAINT... when did it start?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by touchdowntodd, Jan 20, 2007.

  1. touchdowntodd
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  2. Tom C
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    Mid fifties. I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.
     
  3. according to george barris..with him

    and now , the rest of the story
     
  4. Bud
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    Joe Bailon 1956.
     

  5. like i said
     
  6. speedtool
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    If I remember Joe's story right - he carefully poured off the clear tinted red from a can of red metallic lacquer and then shot that over a silver metallic basecoat. Then lots more clear on top of that. Wasn't it on "Miss Elegance"?

    Anyway - most guys add a little tinted color to clear lacquer and keep spraying alternating coats of tint and clear to get the right hue, and make it look deep.

    If I'm wrong, please correct me.
     
  7. touchdowntodd
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    so was it in use at shows by 57-58?
     
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    Joe Bailon in 55 or 56
     
  10. [quote="Doc" Parsons]Joe Bailon in 55 or 56[/quote]

    i know that a friend of mines neighbor ,Frank Livingston,is famous for having one of the first candy paint jobs.HotRodHon...care to elaborate?:D
     
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    I heard Metal Flake started by crushing X-mas oraments very fine and shooting them through the spray gun.

    Sound right?
     
  12. rockabillyjoe
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    George thinks everything started with him! Gene Winfield told me that Sam was the builder. George was the promoter that made you think he was the builder.
     
  13. If this candy apple red paint job looks this good in black and white, imagine how it looked in color!
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  14. 55 or 56 for sure.
     
  15. teddyp
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    FOR WHAT I,VE READ AND TALKING TO GUYS FROM THE WEST COAST SAM WAS THE MAN THAT DID THE WORK BUT GEO WAS THE PROMOTOR THAT GOT KUSTOMS KNOW AND WE SOULD THANK HIM FOR THAT JOE BAILON FRIST DID CANDY IN 55 OR 56 AND HAS BEEN KNOW HAS THE GRAND DADDY OF CANDIES :cool:
     
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    The story that I read many years ago was that in the early fifties there were brooms, yes regular kitchen booms ,being imported with candy paint on the handle . I think from Italy but not sure. They were painted silver then a thin coat of semi transparent red over that....candy red!
    I do remember those brooms as a kid, first red then some in blue candy. Aparently customizers noticed it and duplicated it.
     
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    1949, Pierson Brothers
     
  18. BigBlockMopar
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    Lemme give that a try.
    Where's Rikster when ya need him eh... ;)
     

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  19. Gene says that George would hardling even touch a tool unless a camera was around.He did same think to the pinstripers that worked for him.If a camera was around he would take the brush from the striper and act as if he did the job.
     
  20. RodLand
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    I can't say as to when it started but in RODDING and Re-styling, March 1960, there is a candy formula. Pearl essence is also mentioned.
     
  21. Bud
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    Good point, Zach. I had forgotten about the coupe.
     
  22. Gotgas
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    The Pierson coupe is candy? :confused:

    I'd heard early '50s, someone used printing ink mixed in with a clear topcoat (not really fair to call it "clearcoat") but it faded within a week.
     
  23. suicidal-element
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    I am pretty sure it was Joe Bailon. I know that we have the Joe Bailon Candy Cruise car show every year here in town. He lives bout 5 miles away from my house. Next time I see him round town, Ill ask!!! Haha
     
  24. chopolds
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    Just to fill in the details for the ones who asked.
    The Pierson Bros. Coupe was the first to be painted with a transparent tint over a regular color, in their case, white. Bailon, probably working without knowing what the Piersons did, took a cue from Christmas ornaments, to come up with a new color. He put a clear, tinted with red toner, over a silver metallic base. More like the candy we use today.
    On the other hand, it is also reported that Frank Livingston's Chevy was painted with a gold metallic base, and his painter (can't recall his name...maybe Mel Pignoli) put tinted topcoats over it using printers ink...which subsequently faded quickly. Apparently wasn't stable in sunlight.
    Barris probably just jumped on the idea, and did it on more cars. I believe Barris DID come up with the idea of a pearlescent finish...using ground up fish scales in the paint on the Sahara...which later turned yellowy in the sun, which led to the "Golden" Sahara!
     
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    i thought it was first done for jerry sehagan's chevy ( in the "custom cars of the 50s" book)
     
  26. hotrod1940
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    one of the guys in our club years ago bought a gallon of Pearl Paste and I can tell you that you didn't want to be around when he took the lid off. Ground fish scales don't smell pretty.
     
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    javier mejia (banned 1-25-07) says " rickster - do you have the answer ?".....im just the messenger
     
  28. HRH
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    "Tahitian Red" Factory Lincoln color early 50's painted over a silver base. Someone contact Marty Moore in San Diego. Hell he's probably the first to shoot that colour and still has all of the 1940 Ford cover cars sitting in his shop
     
  29. Royalshifter
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    It started with fingernail polish.
     
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