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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by katzenhammer, Mar 16, 2004.

  1. katzenhammer
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    I was corrected of my wrong doings two weekends ago.

    Last year when I ground the head on my Plymouth I thought what a great idea it would be to install new hardware, since I media blasted the head and painted it all ***y like.

    Well my mistake was purchasing Grade 8 hardware from a local Farm and Barn store.

    It was pointed out to me that due to the compression loads that this engine will place on the head even Grade 8 hardware will stretch and I will end up with a blown head gasket again. I am so thankful that this was pointed out to me. I had thoughts of just reusing the original head bolts but when they turned up missing I consulted the P-15 website. It was recommended to try ARP head studs. I decided that these would do the trick. These studs are a little on the costly side (approx 5 bucks a piece) but in the long run I think the decision to run quality will be advantageous. Especially since it may prevent another blown gasket incident.

    Thanks to blueskies for his help.

    Anybody who doesn't know about his 1950 Plymouth, needs to check out his website on his build up.

    http://home.rmci.net/blueskies/plymouth.html

    Truely a motor that I drool over every time I see it.

    Justin
     
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  3. katzenhammer
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  4. No Shine 53
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    Hey i read the build up on your motor, it was pretty damn cool i must say. i have a flat 6 in my '53 cranbrook your photos and contects will sure help me get it done right!
     
  5. katzenhammer
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    No Shine, It isn't mine. It is Blueskies' car.

    It is a great build up site though.

    Do you have big plans for your 6?

    Justin
     
  6. No Shine 53
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    i dont know about big.. but i sure would like to build it up a little get some power more out of it. i am torn if i should a small block but i love the way the I6's sound they are so cool with split exhuast manifolds.. if you have any info on how to get a little more power out of these please send it my way!

    Thanks

    Billy
     
  7. katzenhammer
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    No Shine---

    Ya know it is kinda funny some of the reference sources I have taked to.
    One of the more interesting sources I have talked to is people who use vintage Allis Chalmers tractors in pulling compe***ions. Some of these tractors came with Mopar sixes in them. It is funny to hear the little sneaky modifications that these people have done to them in order to get more HP. Check that out if you have access.

    Otherwise have you read up much on the P15 website?

    http://www.merc583.addr.com/mopar/framesets/welcomeframeset.html

    Lots of crazy flathead guys on that bored. Stick with the flat six. Anybody can run a small block whatever,, but personally I am addicted to my 6 and I am still dealing with a overall stock motor.

    Good luck if you ever need help, get ahold of me. I am not a supergeniusknowitall,, but I have found some great sources for these motors.

    Justin
     
  8. No Shine 53
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    sweet thanks! im sure i could use some help I've never rebuilt a motor or anything.. i worried i might mess something up. i want to rebuild the ****** too its a 3 speed with over drive. BTW do you have any picture of your project? if you do send them this way i would love to see them..


    Thanks
    Billy
     
  9. katzenhammer
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    Yah no problem. Don't be scared to tear into it. Just do***ent as you go. I started a car diary that has each bolt removed step by step as I fix something different.

    Hey do you have a service manual yet? Get one! They have a lot of good information. Got mine at a swap but they show up on Egay all the time. There is one on there now.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3666416099&category=10778

    I have a more recent pic of my business coupe. This is two weekends ago when we lowered it a little. 3" blocks on the back and one coil out the front.

    I just got a two deuce intake for it and I am workin on cuttin the exhaust intake up to split it.

    Oh you lucky *******!! I would love to have an overdrive ******. Hey good luck man.

    Justin
     

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  10. No Shine 53
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    sweet man i grabbed that manual i was looking from some here and there i couldnt find any at all thanks dude you rule! btw your car looks awesome.. i have a 4 door cranbrook.. pretty much stock right now.. soon as my truck is done im going to make it into a 2 door and chop the top get it a long sleek look.. thanks for the info!

    Billy
     
  11. katzenhammer
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    Hey thanks man. She is gettin there one penny at at time.

    Cool that you got that manual. They are very helpful.

    Good luck with the Cranbrook. They are cool looking cars.

    Justin

     
  12. 4woody
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    Did somebody say 50 Plymouth?? [​IMG]
     

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  14. Bugman
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    Those pulling tractor guys know all the tricks. One guy I talked to said he saw the head lift off the block 5/8 inch, then set back down on an AC tractor while it was pulling. It was turbo'd and ran nitrous. Gives me ideas for my flat 6.

    -Jeff
     
  15. katzenhammer
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    Jeeeeeezus! Turbo and nitrous!!! Holy sheeet! Wonder what he used for a head gasket. I have heard that they are kinda the Achilles heal of these motors.

    4Woody. Nice motor. I have always dug your car also. When and where did you get your head? Oh and a special request..... Can I see your linkage set up? I just got a Fenton two carb intake with the Carters. and I am curious to see how you set up the linkage with the Carters...

    Thanks all

    Justin
     
  16. No Shine 53
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    motor looks awesome! i want to know where you got your head too..

    as for the tractors that sounds pretty damn crazy..


    Billy
     
  17. 4woody
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    Sorry for the slow reply...
    Actually got the head from a neighbor (Detonator's brother) who got it at Turlock and (inexplicably) didn't use it.
    I'll post some linkage pics, let me know if they don't show whatever you want to see.
     

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    Next..
     

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  19. 4woody
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    Katzen- Post some more pics of your car if you've got 'em. I'm gonna lower mine a bit and I'd like to get a look at yours before/after if thats possible.
    4woody
     

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