Would anyone be interested in a new racing class?

A claimer class in drag racing would be a blast!

I've said it for years... but yea, put a $1000 motor in all the cars... and have at it!

Sam.

 

I've got the blueprints for a Chassis research TE 440 car .you can make it any w/b mild steel or c/m sbc injectors on fuel or 6 two's on gas, cheap ? I'm trying to find someone to bend a couple of chassis kit's up 120 w/b ANY ONE Want One ?????

 

Exactly.

 

I need a list of guys that are serious. Not people that want to argue over rules. If you are GENUINELY interested and have plans on building a car, please add your name to this list.

 

Will not work... "oh, I got this engine and trans free..." or "this chassis cost me 20 bucks." I can hear it already.

When was the last time you asked for a reciept at a swap meet?

I think the claimer rule would be the only way of policing it... but I hope it doesn't come to that.

I would enjoy the HELL out of this class! Too bad I have no money.

 

I think about it every day. Mine will be something along the lines of an early Swamp Rat. The nose will look more like the Chizler, like my HA/GR.

 

Pic is small but this might help it isas big as i have.

 

OK, what is the final skinny?

Chromoly .058 except above the shoulders where .065 is the min. No mild steel. Frames can be (OFW) oxy-acetylene or GTAW (TIG) only.

Direct-drive only, centrifugal clutch, slingshot seating only. No battery's, starters, alternators, or air conditioning allowed. The only thing that can be connected to the cam or crank is a fuel-pump and/or a vacuum pump.

No computers, no analyzers, no wireless devices, no radio communications with the driver. No headlights, no stoplights, no turn signals.

Parachutes optional, hand brake required, and no part of the handbrake can rise above the top frame rail.

Steering must be 180 degrees max, but need not be linear.

 

http://seniordragster.bravehost.com/mycar.html
I like the idea and have proposed something similar on my website. No reason why a V8 class couldnt be added. I designed and built my own chassis and it will be NHRA legal. Cost looks like $2500 but I have had some good deals so say about $4000 for realism. Actually you need probably three classes Under 270 cubes , under 320 cubes and under 370 cubes. Production parts only and free hand on internal mods. Carbueration , any carbueration you can dream up and build.
Don

 

I'm still up for it. But a 200" car won't fit in my garage!

Jay

 

Now does anyone have any interest?

 

I think it's a great idea, but you'd really need a good tech person and a P&G gauge. Claims don't work well in oval track racing. From my own experience, there are folks who'd blow out all of their credit cards, sell their wife and kids for bragging rights! I think that a 302 cu in limit with factory stock heads would be the way to go.

How 'bout a HAMB circle track division so that K9, Modifieddriver and I could play too?....

Jan

 

ROFL

i did when you first posted it. this drag racing thing might catch on yet man

 

I sure do! I think i might have been one of the instigators for this thread originally about a year ago.

In fact my car " Wicked Sensation" should be heading out for interior in the next couple weeks. Then after that i'll blow it apart and start painting. Then i'll get some pics going.

 

What ever happened to this idea??

 

Gotta allow SBCs, at least 327s, to keep it affordable. Require early induction systems. SBCs may be bellybuttons, but they are for a reason, and still fun.

 

"I need a list of guys that are serious. ...If you are GENUINELY interested and have plans on building a car, please add your name to this list."

Where's the list?
Add mine to it.
r

 

I would like to have the class at some weight per cubic inch instead of total cubes. This would allow more engine types, car designs, etc. Also, no hemis, not over head cams, no dual cammers. Only tru wedge engines. Back in the old days AHRA unblown gas classes and fuel classes were weight per cubic inch. It work really well. You had super light 265 chevys running againsy ultra heavy 430 lincolns, etc. I would build one in a heart beat

 

I built a car for the first drags. It was a kick in the pants. Set some basic rules. Sam has a great idea claimer rules limit the amount of money in the engine, set a cubic inch, set a wheel base, tire size, safety rules done. When there set don't change them....... Then when that happen count me in and let the bench racing begin

 

I want to build one....the rules don't matter....racing for fun does....I'll gladly lose and buy beer as long as i look good doing it

 

I'd love to try that 120 inch wheel base and a 300 cubic inch limit would maybe keep cost from ruining it. Old motors only, maybe no chromeoly chassis and strict adhesion to the rules. It seems any racing I've ever been fortunate enough to be involved in is always ruined by cheaters. This would be great fun and two or three races a year all together would also be great! Chad

 

You can build a SBC for real cheap and go real fast. My dad and I built an FED in the early 90's, stock crank and rods, $350 set of heads (461's), injected on alcohol, that we NEVER spun over 6800 rpm. It would run 8.50's mid 150's all day long w/ no maintanence. We had about $8,000 in the turnkey car.

In fact, we ran the thing in super comp and did real well w/ it.

What somebody REALLY neads to do is start a true JR. Fuel (nitro) class based on rules from about '68. (307 max cid)

That would be fun as hell!!!

Dave

 

Here's what I think. After having a few months to mull this over, I think an index would cure all the complaining about guys spending boo koo dollars.

We set no limit on CID, Just a tire size rule and run indexes. If these chassis won't spec past 10.00 then so be it. If you runa 9.99 you lose. That would keep it heads up and it wouldn't matter if you had 450,000 dollars tied up in your car. Just set up your car to run whatever index you decide on. If you have limited budget.....run a 12.0 class. There should be no delay boxes or electric gizmos. You can run any thing you want as long as it falls in the index. No handicaps just heads up.

 

I thought we weren't going to apply NHRA specs to our classes?
Why should we worry about NHRA specs anyway.
Most of what we run at MoKan are accepted even though if NHRA specs were applied they would fail.
Aren't we trying to get back to the origions and spirit of early racing before the coporate mentality took over?
Back when it was fun?
Look at the HA/GR class.
Fun with minimal required safety specs.
I'm not a safety anarchist, but I thought we were trying to make it fun again.
So what if we run less than 10.00.
Keep the engines CId small and mild.
Requires cheater-type slicks with a width limit (keeping in the spirit of things).
Don't penalize someone for going too fast with thier home-grown digger.
My plan (if it ever gets to run anywhere) is to build one of these with my injected mild all-iron 283.
With me tuning it, it may or may not break into the high 9's. I don't rightly know.
I just don't want to be penalized if it does.
That's not heads-up racing.
FWIW
r

 

I think you are on to something that would fit a lof of folks dreams and desires of an affordable dragster. It will be interesting to see where this ends up...
Skot

 

Well, you could have 9.00 classes as well. Heads up is what I am after. Indexes have nothing to do with NHRA, even if they use em. I just don't wanna see handicapped racing.

 

There are already people running a second or more faster than some of the other cars in the ha/gr class.

Case in point......if you throw more money at it then you WILL go faster. If you limit how fast a guy in a particular class can go, then it takes some of the drive out trying to outmoney the next guy.

 

"Heads up is what I am after. ...I just don't wanna see handicapped racing."

My sentiments exactly.
By the way, there is no way I could 'out-money' anyone...
r

 

I'm with ya man...........

 

This is the smartest thing I've read reguarding a "class" for the HAMB Drags.
Sam.