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Opinion wanted on flathead cam.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by deuce295, Jan 31, 2007.

  1. deuce295
    Joined: Dec 9, 2005
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    Looking for some opionions on the cam profile I am thinking about for my flathead.

    51 Ford flathead, 3 5/16 bore, 4" crank, stainless valves, Thickston PM7 with dual 97's. Not sure about ignition yet. The profile I was thinking about is a grind from Nielson Racing Cams. Grind #FH-365, lift .365", adv duration 280, .050" duration 244. It is listed as an old style full race. Engine will be in a 28 roadster on deuce rails and street driven.

    Any opinions on this?? Too much cam? Could use a little more cam?

    Any opinions appreciated.

    Jim
     
  2. deuce295
    Joined: Dec 9, 2005
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    Oh yeah, forgot to add the heads will be either Edelbrock or Navarro. Leaning pretty heavy toward the Navarro's

    Jim
     
  3. dochorsepower
    Joined: Aug 4, 2006
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    I'd lean toward the Navarro. Had them on my flathead rail in the early '60's. Had a Winfield cam but modern tech is probably better. And, no I'm keeping Hallibrand.
     
  4. Flat Ernie
    Joined: Jun 5, 2002
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    I'd guess it would be pretty good - not too far off a Howard M-12 or Littero L-100 specs
     
  5. flathead4d
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    I think the most I would go with your setup is the Isky 400jr.
     
  6. Flat Ernie
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    Isky 400 Jr .400" lift, 258* duration (adv)
    Howard M-12 .360" lift, 275* duration (adv)
    Littero L-100 .375" lift, 270*(I)/260*(E) duration (adv)

    I think the Isky is a higher RPM powerband than either of the other two - which are mid-high range...but I'm definitely no cam expert!
     
  7. Flatdog
    Joined: Jan 31, 2003
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    Specs sound about right to me, but thats not the whole story.Do you have a cam card? Think it will run fine with your combo.
     
  8. I know nothing about flatties,but you might give this guy a call.
    Ive been trying to get him to become an Alliance Vendor & I'll keep trying.
    He does this as a side buisiness,& I work with him at our 'regular' jobs.
    He makes nice stuff.

    http://www.baronracingequipment.com/
     
  9. Hi Mate,

    I always though that it was lobe separation and duration (and therfore overlap) that determined the rpm band the cam produced the most power in? In this instance I would ***ume that it would be the M-12 that would be the high winder?

    Educate me!

    Danny
     
  10. Flat Ernie
    Joined: Jun 5, 2002
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    Flat Ernie
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    You're absolutely right re: lobe separation & overlap - all else being equal, I think higher lift is required for higher rpm due to the valve being open for a shorter time - obviously some of this can be altered to a point with duration, but all else being equal, as rpms go up, actual time open goes down.

    Like I said, I'm not a cam guy - more of a cave man. :p
     
  11. Hi Ernie,

    I'm more of a Philistine then a Cave Man!:D

    I'm bored at work and thinking about the cam dynamics; what you say is true, if duration and lobe separation is the same, then higher lift would result in better breathing. But would it result in a higher rpm power band?

    I have no idea lol.

    Danny
     
  12. 64Newport
    Joined: Jan 16, 2007
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    64Newport
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    from Tucson, Az

    Higher lift doesn't necessarily mean a higher RPM powerband, but it does facilitate one. Lobe seperation and duration play a big part in the powerband location.
     

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