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RE: NHRA and vintage style chassis... i spent a good half an hour on the phone with NHRA Div7 tech trying to get a classification by which to tech HA/GR's... they couldnt figger it out. is it a dragster? is it an altered? either way it doesnt meet the book's standard. basically, if it resembles a dragster (and it IS a slingshot chassis) then it must meet the basic dragster configuration as outlined in the NHRA rule book. that being said... it IS still at the discretion of the local track tech guy whether or not to let you pass...common sense for the given E.T. there is a guy by the name of Jeff Crider who ran his K-88 in goodguys for quite a while, but he had to update the hell out of his car to make it legal..it was a gross distortion of the original. build at your own risk... not all of us are lucky enough to have non-nhra tracks.
And NHRA will let you run 6's at 180MPH on a Pro Stock motorcycle with just leathers and a helmet. Go figure.
A 327 with a hydraulic cam, 10:1 compression and a set of camel hump heads would make that car run 10's... I'd run mechanical injection on it... or leave it in the garage until you got the scratch to buy a set of injectors. Sam.
"And NHRA will let you run 6's at 180MPH on a Pro Stock motorcycle with just leathers and a helmet. Go figure." Man, if you're only running 180mph and in the sixes something is terribly wrong. My S/C dragbike will run 170 around the 8.60 mark... but then we are a strange breed. r
Could you do this with carbs (3x2, or 6x2 Holley 94s, maybe?) and pump gas, to keep a realistic budget?
Sure, you can do it with carbs - plenty of guys did it with 4x2 or 6x2 manifolds "back in the day" (why do you think those manifolds were manufactured?). Not everybody waited to have injection before competing - you kept racing with what you had and stepped up as $$ allowed.
Sure, you can do it with carbs - plenty of guys did it with 4x2 or 6x2 manifolds and carbs "back in the day" (why do you think these manifolds were manufactured?). You stepped up to injection as $$ and/or competition level allowed.
lokks real nice, but can you race it? or do you build it to fire it up in the parking lot, and listen to it run. to many cackle fest cars already, lets go racin boys!!
i like the spec tire idea, maybe cody at hurst could supply 'em. that, along with a cubic inch restriction, could keep the speeds reasonable...
Thats a neat chassis I hope i get to see one run. Pro Comp is in NO WAY Nostalgia Drag racing ,maybe a distant cousin w its goofy plastic space ship body poor copy's, on board electronics + humongous blower motor's , I admit its a natural progression of the sport and was desinged to make the "No Hot Rods Allowed" crowd happy ,it did'nt + trust me it is NOT nostalgia drag racing.They barely even look like cars anymore. Keep em at NHRA/IHRA meets. LOL - JMHO and I am not alone.
that what I ran here, C/D with a 331,.488 solid lift cam, 10.5 to 1 cast pistons,hilborns on gas,vertex mag, 59 saginaw 2 speed (2nd/3rd gear- no first or rev gear) 57 chevy rear 4.11 gears and 35 year old M&H tires at 40 psi. went low 11's smoking the tires in high gear only! definetly a low 10 sec ride. we even put my buddies into the mid to high 9's with modern slicks on it!
Hey ..I might be an old trud ,but I dont want to get my ass killed in an "un-safe" car! Back in the day people were getting killed running 10's...11's and 12's in cars that,at the time , were considered to be "hi-tech"! And yes, I agree that the NHRA are wheenies ,but they do have a point....trying to keep the drivers and spectators safe...the liabilty factor is huge! Remember, they have been doing this since the 50's when the NHRA was run by nothing but real hot-rodders ...A lot of there friends died so they came up with more strict rules and the "Safety Safari". I'm not necessarly pro NHRA, I'm just anti-stupid! Don't get me wrong, I love old timey drag racing with real cars built by real people...runwhatyabrung stuff is the best!! But if we are gonna turn our backs on the safety thing....I'm done...I love it, but I like my pulse too. One more bitch-fest...what track owner in his right mind is gonna put everything on the line for a few thousand bucks?! ... I DONT GET IT!! I know it's cool and all, but if we aren't smart about this, somebody's gonna get hurt or killed "only doing 10's. And that's not cool........u.d.
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i just read some were that NHRA has all the rules bc of all that crap people put together and try and run. bad welds exp. that the cars don't need all of the stuff. but they have it to keep poeple safe from ther own crappy cars? that if cars were biult right they would not have to have all the stuff they do now. not shure were i read it. but it does make sence. i still think it would be real kick in the ass to run at woodburn. remeber growning up some of the fed cars.
Wow guys. This thread hits home for me. I love drag racing and I love the old cars and "nostalgia" stuff. The posts contained in this thread ALL have merit. This battle has and will rage on. I am building a front engine top fuel dragster to VRA rules. Is it a nostalgia car?- not so much other than the engine in the front but right now if you want to run blown nitro on a budget its either this way or cacklefest where they are nothing more than a noisy piece of furniture. If I build a car I am going to race it. The HA/GR class has had some trouble on the left coast with tech inspectors but we run the shit out of them here at Mokan and Tulsa with no problems. Heads up racing is where it is at- everything else sucks BUT a heads up class is a HARD thing to keep a handle on after a few years of existence. It keeps going faster until you hit a wall on safety and $$$ to be competitive. Keeping from hitting that wall requires strictly enforced rules from the very start of the class and being able to modify those rules as seen necessary after the class is going. Guidelines and "spirit of the class" will not work for long unless maybe you had an invitation only class. The HA/GRs proved that.- (but we are still running ours and having fun doing it!!!!!) I love these chassis and I hope there is something in the works for a heads up class and tracks to run them. It would be killer!!!! My advice- VERY STRICT RULES - engine/trans/tires from the start. if not it will end up bracket racing or car show "fire up" material. Brad
I just saw the Southern Slingshots run at a local 1/8 track. They had feds and some altereds. These guys were runnin em hard and havin a ball. Full on nitro motors to carbed small or big blocks. They looked the part, put on a helluva show and had no class, no strict rules.COOL
This is our TE440 Chassis built in 1958 by Chassis Research. We have raced it with a Flathead since 1971. We currently run it at Nostagia Drags such as the "Antique Nationals", "Good Guys", and most recently the "NHRA Hot Rod Reunion/Cacklefest Oct 07". We recently put on a roll cage in the interest of safety. If it was a show car we would have left it original, but it is a "race" car and since Legendery racer "Mickey Brown" was killed in this car in 1958 because of a lack of bar, it just made sense. Bill
Whatv is the skinney on these cars and where does one find out about rules for the HAMB drags. I dont have any drag racing back ground but these things look pretty cool!