I dont think it means they can take it from your property. They can and will impound it if it is in the street, or hanging into the street or sidewalk from the end of your driveway. Depending on your city or homeowner's association rules, they may be able to take an unregistered vehicle from your yard. Typically you are cited first. Its best to go down and pay up at this point.
It says they can take it if it is on public land, roads, or on private property. of course that is not going to happen since I will just pay the fees come monday, and it will all go away, i just thought that it was a little out of hand.
The Government marches at the pace of the slowest intellect. Only elect leaders that you can keep up with.... Before cars bicycles were registered and had plates. America's a big taxi cab dance. The part that that I like is that because certain people won't and never will obey rules that must be laid down to make a system work,So the threats of puishment get greater and greater and enforcement only costs more, and guess who pay's it all.
All this BS sounds like good reasons not to live in California...(unfortunatley these ordinences are spreading all over the country like cancer, beaucratic bullshit over owning vintage tin)...I can promise ya this, if somebody is in my backyard they better have my permission or they better be bulletproof or armor plated because my 308 says "NO TRESPASSING!"....
I'm sure it's been stated already... the bottom line is: --CA doesn't want non-insured vehicles operating on the streets --CA wants registration money if the vehicle is driving on the streets --CA says that if you are NOT operating the vehicle on the streets, then you must file the vehicle under non-op in order to avoid being in the category of "suspected of operating on the street without paying registration fees or maintaining insurance". While I do think it's extreme of them to threaten to seize and auction in order to collect the registration fees for the presumable operation on the street with expired tags, there is a way to avoid this sort of problem in advance--- either file under non-op, or pay for tags and insurance to operate on the street. Not sure what the solution would be to fix the problem if you just parked the car and neglected the tags. Probably just pay them, I guess. I hate it just as much as you do, but they have a system in place that needs to be adhered to in a certain way in order to avoid some of the troubles that can "arise" (be foisted upon you). Good luck with that!
Get it back put it in the fucking drive way and put up no trespassing signs. Here in michigan that goes for everyone.. you stay off my property or else. Im glad i dont live in california.....we can set up a deal to send out gas and electric meter readings to the utility company and fence our shit off so no one can get in.. I just cant believe they can come impound your vehicle cause you didnt renew your plates. What if its behind a fence or in a garage .. fuck them shoot first ask questions later.......... Dave oh ya the non licensed or whatever they call it bull shit is just that bullshit. How much does it cost you to piss in your own toliet???
The cable company doesn't have imminent domain rights, whereas the government does. They can take your car and all you can do is hope for a reach-around, especially since the supreme court recently upheld property seizure, "in the best interests of the community." Thanks, Scalia.
You can only register it as Non Op only AFTER all back tags and fines are paid. I know, I got dinged BIG time on a car I bought because the Numnuts I bought it from didn't keep the rego up. I've never gotten a notice from DMV to register or face impoundment. My Chevy's tags expired 3 years ago *I moved so much, never got the renewal and plain ol forgot* and never got any such thing in the mail. It's all caught up now and Non Op'd. Grand total of $800 between the two cars....which have an annual registration fee of $56 apiece. Just pay it, we all have to. It's a PRIVILEGE to drive, not a RIGHT.
I think the California DMV is run by the Mafia. Perhaps Tony Soprano is behind one of those closed doors they always go into when you ask a question that the counter monkey cant answer. (Just get 'um to pay another hun and call it good) My California DMV fun I bought my 50 Chevy on a Sunday and had it towed to my house as the steering was broken. The only place to put it was in the street, but I figured it would be fine there till I got to the DMV on Monday. (Plates were a few years out). Boy, was I was wrong. Woke up Monday morning, truck is gone. Just a small trail of Trans fluid leaving the parking space and going down the street. Shit. Called the cops and they told me it had been towed for out of date reg. I had to go to the DMV, pay all the fees, the fines for the last owners past due reg, then go and pay all the overpriced towing, the labor to remove the driveshaft and storage fees. It was in storage for about 6 hours. (Another Mafia organization?) I think I dropped about $300 in total that morning on a $700 truck (1985 dollars). The best part is that I had seen cars get that little sticker on the window from the cops. I had seen them sit with that little sticker for a long time before they were towed. But they were usually old POS HondToyoDatsuns or something. I looked at my sticker. Cop wrote it at 2am, truck was towed at 4am. I think the tow drivers were cherry picking vehicles they knew would get Bailed out or they maybe wanted for themselves long before getting the junk that was probably abandoned and only worth scrap steel prices. Boy, that was over twenty years ago and it still pisses me off thinking about it. Missouri DMV is much easer to get along with. My daily driver was an old Jag with a California salvage title when I moved here. When the new title from Missouri came, the Salvage was gone. A gift from the state of Missouri, I guess.
I really don't understand this. I thought the point of registration was you are purchasing the right to use the roads. What about a dragster that has no registration???? Owning a car and driving/operating a car are seperate issues.
Insurance companies make more money if.....registration is required, and insurance is required for registration....political campaign contributions by the millions paid by insurance lobbyists......GUESS WHO IS PAYING FOR IT???? I can't believe some of you guys think it's right. Taxes for NOT using your car????????gimme a fuckin break.
Last time I checked, driving was a privilege. You have to keep your stuff up to spec or the state can do, and will, whatever they want to mess with you. If you don't like the laws of the state you live in, move. When I first got my '59, it didn't run. But I registered it non-op AND had to get non-op insurance to comply with the state. Non-op insurance is only like $20 for a year, btw. Later on when I got the car running, I had to go back and get everything changed to op status... this is just the way the system works. No crying or bitching here... it's just the way it is, end of story.
So.....non op insurance is covering what????? If the car magically fixes itself...starts itself....drives itself over an innocent telephone pole, you are insured???? It's insurance and registration fees for NOT DOING ANYTHING..??????????????????????...that makes the citizens of california suckers. They call it a registration and insurance fee....it's a TAX! The beatles said it best....If you chose to walk, they'll tax your feet.
She never specified what state she was talking about, but since she got that car running where ever it was that she USED to live, I'm gunna assume she wasn't going on about Califias laws. I'd like to say I'm a spitting image of Sherlock Holmes, but I too short and too round so I'll settle for Watson.
I'm wondering when all of this kind of crap is going to come to a head and someone/lots of people die because everyone is fed up.
No, that was MN laws. And that non-op insurance covers you in case something happens... like a tree falling on your car, or a garage fire. All in all though, if you're having issues registering a car in Calif because they say you need insurance and your car has become non-op, I don't see what's so bad about a nominal non-op insurance fee.
As of 2007, the cops can take your car for expired tags or no insurance. I'm sure they will be lax on enforcing this law for a while but in six month, watch out. I all way keep my paperwork in order, why give them more reason to mess with you?
December 21st, 2012. The Mayan calendar ends on that date. This is also the date the Earths magnetic fields swap poles. I read all about it on the Internet...
sumbitch, god help all of us around here if this shit makes its way to nebraska! i can look down the street in my town and see at least 4 other yards that look like a damned shitbox sales lot.
My town has some tight restrictions on non-op cars. Even though the state says you can register as non-op (that keeps it in the system by the way) the city got in a pissing match with a guy years ago about the ten or so old Caddys he had in the yard of one of his rental properties. So they said no cars visible that don't run and have registration. So he fenced his yard. Then the city passed an ordance that you could only have legaly registered cars on your property. He fought that with the non-op state law and won. Anyway, these days the city has ordanances that say you can't have any car on your property or stored in a garage that doesn't run and isn't registered and insured. I'm really glad my garage is behind the house inside my fenced yard. As long as the neighbors don't turn me in I'll be ok. As for the state and non-op, they stopped billing you $15.00 a month to keep it non-op but they don't warn you when it's about to fall out of the system. At that point you need to take it in for inspection and verification and they issue a new title and plates. This really sucks because of all the time and trouble you need to do even if you have a valid title and old registration. If it drops out of the system, you start over with DMV. I just went through this with a Mustang I gave my son. Took weeks to get everything done and the new title/reg. I love California but I hate California government. A couple years to go and we sell the house and get out.
By the way, if you put the truck on the street with no fenders, engine or plates and left it for a day or two I don't see why you are surprised. If I put a car on the street with no tags I'd be surprised if they didn't ticket and tow within a couple hours. And "non-op insurance" must be theft etc. Everything but the liability etc you need to drive.
you should ALWAYS non op it, it's only $10. they can also hold up your income tax return for non payment.....you could be driving on their streets with you unpaid car. if it's non op'ed you can get a free moving permit for a day also.
Frankly, til I came to the Hamb, I never heard of such things. In Ohio and other states back here, if the tags expire, you just park the car. The Yard cops can make you hide it from public view, but you don't pay fees for a car not driven on the road. If nobody complains, you don't even have to do that. If you put it back on the road, you just buy new tags. No extra fees, no penalties for non-use. I'd truly like to know how many other states have these asinine laws making you pay to keep an in-op car? Thanks, Jan Jan
this is what i've decided to do......i know i'm wasting my breath when i argue with those cocksnots at the DMV/police dept. so i'm going to pay all of these fines. My truck will be insured and registered. and even though my truck does not have an engine/front fenders/hood ect. i'm still gonna park that sum bitch right back out on the street!!!! i'll push it in the garage to work on it...and then i'll push it right back into the street.....if the cops "F" with me again...i'll pay their fines again. they can't say it's abandoned if it's insured/registered...right? if i get all the right paperwork i can park it where i want to...right?
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