392 hemi in 40 ford?

Just trying to find out if anyone has done this without cutting or modifiying the firewall. I have tried using the search but couldnt come up with anything. Any help would be appreciated as i dont want to modify my firewall.

 

Hello, look in the newest Street Rodder Mag under the Alter Boys Ralph's Diner. There is a 40Sedan with a 392 in it. The owners name is Paul Dayotas,...I think his son Pete is a member of the HAMB,...tight fit...looks awesome

 

Thanks x55, I will look into it. Have a good one

 

This might help. The 392 is 32" long end of block to fan pulley and 29" at it's widest point (stock valve covers), sans exhaust manifolds. As you probably already know it's also a rear dizzy.

 

There's a guy in SA or VIC with 40/hemi. Been on the road for years. It's green /flames. Sorry, can't remember his name at the mo.

 

they will fit, but i,m not sure about cuttin the firewall. but they look awesome in a 40. wall to wall motor!!

 

40s,
As I remember you could use most of the firewall but the oil filter really clashed with the frame rail.A guy in the next town had a sweet 39 Dlx.coupe with a 354 in it.Another had a 392 in a 47 2 door,it fit better.I ran an early cad.331 in my 40 2 door fit like a glove.Enough from an old man and memories of 63/64.
later,glider.

 

I installed one in my 40 but I put the big block firewall in. By the looks of it I think the original firewall would work. I've attached a few pics. You will need to modify the inner fender panels to clear the valve covers. I put about two inch deep kickouts in the panels to clear the valve covers.

 

A friend in OKC had to notch his truck for a 354:

 

Manyolcars has one but I haven't heard much of him for a while.

 

Hey if it is a hot rod, cut out whatever is in the way.

I thought only restorers are anal about keeping it original.

It is much cooler with the Hemi.

 

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I have been doing some measurements and it will be a really tight squeeze. Just going to have to stick it in to find out. Nice photos too guys.

 

just stick it in and call me when you are and ill come and help jam it.

 

Maybe you can do what the Willys guys do with the 1940/41s to get more space - use a cross flow radiator mounted low and forward. I have never tried it on a Ford but maybe that would gain a bit of space. Also check out water pump adapters - www.hothemiheads.com to see if you can shorten the waterpump. I managed to cut 2"/5 cm in length off a clevo using the water pump kit from Snow White in Fresno, CA. They use a 1970s Opel 1.9 liter aluminum pump -3-5/8" deep on an adapter. Beautiful piece of German casting the pump is too.

There's a '39 Ford De Luxe coupe around here has had a 392 in it with the stock firewall since the early 1960s and still owned by the same guy from back then.

 

I do remember seeing one a long time ago with the stock firewall; I didn't think it would fit either. I know a 351 Cleveland will fit with water pump changes, and they're pretty big too.

 

Here's a picture of my buddies '40 Coupe with a Hemi. He used Chevy injection parts and made the runners out of stainless. Took some time to get it all working properly but it's great now. The car has a Mustang II front suspension. He's a machinist (retired G.M), also did the body and paint AND sewed the leather interior himself---the guy's amazing!

 

If you don't want to cut the firewall you don't want a Hemi...plain and simple.

 

Damn It hurts to be a Ford fan. The company that virtually invented hot rods and yet they brand x'd all the time. Does anyone else indentify with these fine cars as being Fords? Or are they just fodder?

 

Put 392 boed 1/8" to 416 in a 40 coupe in the late 60's with Hurst mounts, did not have to cut the firewall.

 

I hear what your saying and if I did not have the hemi I would have done a 427 FE because I like them also. Hotrods are just that owners choice. My buddy's 40 has a 429 in it and his 28 tudor he is running a 289 so that should make you feel a little better.

 

That will be bitchin!

 

They fit fine in a '56 F-100...

 

What a handsome jerk!!

 

I resemble that remark...

 

Passenger side:

 

I'm pretty much in the "Ford in a Ford' camp, too. But I kinda waver on this now that so many guys have discovered all the great, old vintage engines of the past.

When I was in my early teens the guys down the street built several Merc-a-lacs and another guy at my school had an Olds-powered '56 Chevy... not uncommon in the day.

My '56 F-100 had a 428 in it in it's last configuration. And my original thought was to put a 4.6 DOHC Ford in it. But the thought of putting a "modern" engine in the truck quickly faded and I decided toi use one of the Hemi's I had been "saving".

Now I'm getting a little closer to running it and I'm getting kinda stoked about it...