I've never actually cared to find out what some of the terms mean...most are self explanetory...but alot just never applied to my Model A, so I never cared... But now...since I'm selling the A and in the market for a 50-60's driver...I'm curious as to what these terms mean... Nosed: Decked: Sectioned: any more? Chop, Channel, Shaved - DUH Also...what do you call this treatment to the taillights, and how is it performed? I've seen this style on other cars... (stole it from Brootals post)
Nosed: remove any ornamentation (emblems, trim,hood bird) from the hood Deck: Same...but on the trunk lid. Includes locks, latches, handles Section: Same as a chop, but remove the 'section' from the body, making it lower. Can also refer to shortening a body, though not as commonly used as such. Frenched: What those tail lights are. Remove the ornamental trim from around an object, mold it into the body. Usually means welding the trim piece onto the body, but sometimes you fabricate a new surround for the piece. Tunnel: sink the head or tail lights into the body. Radius: Round off previously squared openings. Hood and door corners, for instance.
I think those terms should a part of a HAMB test. ifin you dont p***. you dont post... Man I think Monster Garage and all other Cable hot rod shows are the end of it all. After seeing Jesse James on the wall of every Autozone....Soon theyll have Frenching and shaving kits next to the Tuner tips... (the zone would not make me a manager in SD because of all my ink. Now there spokes person is a near mirror image. OOOOO the humanity)
Chop...thanks... So essentially..."nosing & decking" is the same "SHAVING". I thought the meant to reshape the hood/trunk area, but I'm wrong. Anyone have a pic of a car that's been sectioned? Preferrably before & after photos? Just for reference. Drag...lol... go back and try and get the Manager position...say "they'll buy because I resemble what they see on TV"
Kind of off topic for this thread but, is that 49-50 Ford rear gl*** in that chevy? It looks like it to me, but I want to be sure. Geno
[ QUOTE ] Kind of off topic for this thread but, is that 49-50 Ford rear gl*** in that chevy? It looks like it to me, but I want to be sure. Geno [/ QUOTE ] I would say yes...I have two fords, and that looks very much like the windows I have... JP
and the chorus goes; Cleavage, cleavage, thighs and hips From the nape of her neck to the lipstick lips Chopped and channeled and lowered and lewd And the cheater slicks and baby moons She's a-hot and ready, creamy and sugared And the band is awful and so are the tunes From; Pasties And A G-String (At The Two O'Clock Club), Buy it Today TW
[ QUOTE ] Pancaking? [/ QUOTE ] I belive this is welding the hood or trunk of a big round car to the body and then cutting the opening back into the hood or trunk higher up around the radius of the hood or trunk.
The hood on a MGA, a Corvette (up thru the stingrays) and a Tbird thru '60 (and others, 60s Lincoln, and Imperials etc.) are pancaked. It's when the hood is surrounded by the fenders and front body metal all in one piece without seams. Custom pancaking does this to hoods that werent pancaked from the factory
I've always thought the difference between shaving and NOSING and DECKING was, nosing was taking the big company logo embelem and "hood bird" off th hood and decking the same to the trunk (boot in left side of the road countries) while SHAVING was directed at the small name and model badges, shiny trim and door handles on the sides of the car. And, if you're cool, you NEVER run Lakes pipes and Bellflowers at the same time.
[ QUOTE ] I've always thought the difference between shaving and NOSING and DECKING was, nosing was taking the big company logo embelem and "hood bird" off th hood and decking the same to the trunk (boot in left side of the road countries) while SHAVING was directed at the small name and model badges, shiny trim and door handles on the sides of the car. And, if you're cool, you NEVER run Lakes pipes and Bellflowers at the same time. [/ QUOTE ] That's exactly how I learned it as well.
[ QUOTE ] so is it shaved or filled when refering to a bumper with bolts welded and smoothed? Paul [/ QUOTE ] I've allways refered to that as "smoothing", but not sure if that's correct or not.
[ QUOTE ] so is it shaved or filled when refering to a bumper with bolts welded and smoothed? Paul [/ QUOTE ] That's a good one! I've heard all three of those for a bumper, Shaved, Filled and Smoothed. I guess if you was referring to all the terms about a car if you already used shaved to describe losing the door handles you'd opt to use filled or smoothed for the bumper. Some of it is just literary differences rather than talking jargon. Magazine writer's relish in not using the same descriptive word twice in an article, (good, or at least interesting one's anyway) I think FILLED is the best term for a bumper because it best describes the most successful way of getting rid of the bolts, and that is to fill the hole completely and then weld a support bracket piece of metal to the back of the bumper and weld or fasten the mounting bolt into that new location, adjusting the shape of the bumper brackets as necessary. Just welding the bolts into the bumper and grinding off the heads or welding them directly to the back of the bumper is usually going to fail because the bumper will stress crack them back out of the holes, screwing up th now chrome job with it
DrJ, Pancaking also covers sectioning a hood. The term comes from flattening it out "Maaaan Flat as a Pancake". Texhdcr, If your talkin' to an old timer a chopped one is also called hammered. Back in the '50s (and early '60s) they also Dehggoed (pronounced Day-goed) the grill, the term isn't PC so forgive if I've offended someone. It refers to moulding the surround and floating the grill. The lights on the back of that sled in your picture are grafted on quarters from a different car like a packard or a plymouth or something, then frenched. I don't know if there is a term for the process other than grafting on quarters. You left out peaked hood, self-explanitory I guess. BTW just buy a cheap driver and build the A-Bone. Otherwise you'll be kicking your own *** the rest of your life. Just my .02
[ QUOTE ] DrJ, Pancaking also covers sectioning a hood. The term comes from flattening it out "Maaaan Flat as a Pancake". [/ QUOTE ] Shoulda said earlier that some of these terms have regional differences in their meanings. Like P&Bner said, it could be a sectioned hood but I think that would only be on a fat fendered car that was channeled and the fenders moved up on the body and ONLY the hood was sectioned, not the body. Otherwise if the body was sectioned it would be ***umed the hood was sectioned too. But I wouldn't use it myself unless the fenders were joined in front of the hood with sheet metal, with the hood opening "flat as a pancake" somewheres back from the grill. Other regional name differences are words like "SHOEBOX" which to me, only properly refers toa '49-51 Ford, nothing else. But in other parts of the country it has referred to Tri-five Chevy's and not Fords. And dagoed was a dropped axle from that San Diego axle dropping family the name of which I'mdrawing blank on right now.
As I understand it, Dago when used in reference to a Hot Rod is a reference to San Diego... not to ones ethnic origins.
orcabettying? That would be stuffing several of your orcabetty's in the back seat so as to lower the rear, taildragger style..... Even more effective if you stuff them in the trunk, but they tend to develop even more of an at***ude when you do that.
[ QUOTE ] As I understand it, Dago when used in reference to a Hot Rod is a reference to San Diego... not to ones ethnic origins. [/ QUOTE ] That's sorta what I said isn't it? I'm not sure what San Diegans think of the reference Dago being about San Diego. I know San Franciscans DON'T like their city being called FRISCO.
What I remember was the guys on the block I grew up on getting puffed up when they heard the term. I have heard of axles refered to haveing a daygo drop, and the name of the company eludes me as well. But in the part of state I grew up in it was always daygo(sp) the grill. They were always talking about customizing '50s cars, I just ***umed that the term wasn't PC because I haven't heard it since moveing to the midwest and I knew it bothered some of the people on the Hill. Anyway, not in defense. I had forgotten about axles with a daygo drop. So, I can add that back to my list. It never ceases to amaze me the stuff I've forgotten that someone on the HAMB brings up. DrJ you're absolutly right about terminology being regional, a couple of years ago I said something about a coupe being really hammered when the wife and I were down south. The people we were with told me that that guy didn't even drink. I guess something got lost in the translation.
Ed (AXLE) Stewart is the name you're looking for on the dropped or Dago'ed axle. Sailors have always refered to Dago and Frisco. Nothing ethnic about it. They're just shortened names for the towns. I love Dago axles... Dey go dis way... Dey go dat way...
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] As I understand it, Dago when used in reference to a Hot Rod is a reference to San Diego... not to ones ethnic origins. [/ QUOTE ] That's sorta what I said isn't it? I'm not sure what San Diegans think of the reference Dago being about San Diego. I know San Franciscans DON'T like their city being called FRISCO. [/ QUOTE ] Frisco never bothered me. It was always my Mom's nickname. I always thought it was because we lived there. But I guess some find it offensive. Although I can remember alot of people wearing Fricso Jeans when I was growing up, and no one ever seemed offended by the name. I guess it depends on the context. I guess this is completely OT. Texas have we muddied up the water yet?
[ QUOTE ] orcabettying? That would be stuffing several of your orcabetty's in the back seat so as to lower the rear, taildragger style..... Even more effective if you stuff them in the trunk, but they tend to develop even more of an at***ude when you do that. [/ QUOTE ] Hahaha!! As for "Dago", I grew up in San Diego, and never refered to it as Dago, but I've heard people refer to it as that. But we did call L.A. Smell-A.
[ QUOTE ] ... Frisco never bothered me. It was always my Mom's nickname. I always thought it was because we lived there. But I guess some find it offensive. Although I can remember alot of people wearing Fricso Jeans when I was growing up, and no one ever seemed offended by the name. I guess it depends on the context. [/ QUOTE ] I go to Frisco's Diner and that's cool for a person's name, but not that city by the bay. It's just that people who live in San Francisco don't like "Outsiders" renaming their city for them. Yea, I've heard of S.F. based Levi's called Frisco's too, just don't use it IN San Francisco... For those who really don't know, Dago has been used like in "Dago Red" to describe Chianti or Italian red wine. It's an ethnic slur (about Italians) when used (and shouldn't be used) that way. What are "Bellflowers"?
[ QUOTE ] ...But we did call L.A. Smell-A. [/ QUOTE ] HEY! You're talking about the town I was born in! That's a good one, and I was born in San Pedro near the Harbor. Probably the smelliest part there is with the tuna cannerys and harbor s*** and oil refineries all around. I like to call it "El Lay" or "Armpit" or "Tinseltown" or "New Babylon" "Hollyweird" works for that part of it too...
Hahaha, well south county San Diego, by the Mexican border, smells pretty bad too. A couple friends took me and my husband to China Town in L.A. once, it smelled kinda odd. But my favorite part was the Chinesse techno music!!
DrJ I grew up in the City by the Bay. Yes some of the people who live there are offended by the use of Frisco. We lived on 20th and Texas on Portrero Hill. Just down the hill from Daniel Webster School. Actually Frisco jeans were made by Ben Johnson's. Black jeans, short waist, slash pockets and stovepipes. They said Frisco Jeans right on the label back then. The last pair I owned said can't bust 'em on the label and had a monkey. Still the same cut. When I was a kid they had offices, and an outlet store in the Mission, right across the street from the Levi's store. There are probably a lot of things that aren't PC but the term Frisco never bothered me and still doesn't. Once a missfit always a missfit I guess. I really wasn't trying to open a can of worms, just answer a question. I didn't make the term up, just mentioned it. I guess there are conversations that I should try and avoid.
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