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What engine came in a 57 Plymouth Savoy?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by fiat128, Mar 2, 2007.

  1. fiat128
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    What would have been the stock V-8 for a 57 Plymouth Savoy?

    I found one in the woods years ago that still has the motor in place and was wondering what it was. The car is still sitting where it was years ago except now it is buried under a bunch of trees that blew over in a hurricane.
     
  2. 2manybillz
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    277, 301 or 318 cu. in.
     
  3. Gotgas
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    ^^ Yep, tis true.

    What bodystyle is the Savoy? Two-door HTs are in demand.
     
  4. fiat128
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    It's been so long since I was looking at it I can hardly remember. I think it was a four door though. The car is actually on the side of the interstate in a trash dump. Looks like when they built the interstate the cut over an old road. Probaly been sitting there since the 70s.

    The lower 6 inches of the car are rotted off and all of the chrome, grille, trunk lid and many of the interior parts are missing (I know where they are though). Also, like I said it's now under a pile of trees so it's got to be even rougher than it was 10 years ago.

    I had no idea there was interest in these cars.
     
  5. 53dodgekustom
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    I think that no matter what type of car it is, someone will be interested in it. There are a lot of people on the HAMB that have late fifties Mopars.
     
  6. Squablow
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    I'll buy the bumpers off of it if you get it to part out.

    There is huge demand for 57-58 Plymouth stuff. Even from a four door. That would definitely be a worthwhile parts car if you want to part one out on the internet.

    Also, they didn't all have V8's, some still carried the flathead 6, but I'm assuming you know it's a V8 since you saw the car.
     
  7. savoy_man
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    Those were the poly motors. They could make good power but there aren't many performance parts for them so you have to be resourceful. If you were looking to get the car to have a V-8 to build then be prepared to spend some cash.
     
  8. ironfly28
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    There's a guy in Tucson that has a ton of speed parts for poly motors, I think the name of the place is desert auto parts.
     
  9. Gotgas
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    Why not? Some consider these cars to be the best styled car of the entire decade. :cool:
     

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  10. savoy_man
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    I agree....they are my favorite car ever. Just traded my current one for a model A sedan but have no fear I will have another.
     

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  11. More confusion for me.

    The 230 cube 6 was standard, but you said V8... Wasn't the 301 engine the only optional engine for the Savoy?

    I thought the 277ci was optional on the Plaza, the 301 optional on the Plaza, Savoy and Belvedere, and the 318 was in the Fury for 1957...?
     
  12. My Belvedere had a 301.
     
  13. MoPer38
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    My 1957 savoy came with a 301, which was a one year only engine. It is simply a destroked 318 poly. I am sure the flathead six was found in them as well, but I dont know if you could get a 318 that year in the lower grade models. The fury was available with a 350 with two fours(...or maybe not untill 58,cant remember).

    If there is any decent sheet metal it would be worth saving... 1957 was the first year (i believe) that Chrysler produced their own bodies. Up untill then, the work was subbed out to fisher... As a result the cars held water in all the wrong places and many met an untimely demise. If you find anything worth salvaging let me know, I would be interested....

    the engine number is stamped on a boss on the left side at the front of the cylinder block on 6 cylinder engines. ON 277, 301, and 318 the number is stamped on the left front face of the cylinder block. ON 350 engineds the number is stamped on the right side of the cylinder block between the coil and the distributor.
     

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  14. 1958 had the 350ci B engine.
     
  15. fiat128
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    Somebody said something about sheetmetal. The trunklid has been in my garage for about 8 years.

    I am going back to where the car is next weekend. I live in El Paso and the car is in North Carolina. If it's still there I'll try to get some pix. It is in pretty bad shape but there may be something good left.

    My father was into hiking when I was a kid and thinking back, I can remember finding lots of old cars in the woods. They all had anything shiny or neat looking picked off them but alot of time has passed and some of the stuff that wasn't work messing with back then is probably worth it now.
     
  16. fiat128
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    One other thing, anything part particular you'd like me to look for? (Bumpers right? Seems to me that there was something about them that made me not get em but I'll double check)
     
  17. Gotgas
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    If the car has the bumper "wings" that were optional for '57-58, you should pull them. They are worth an absolute FORTUNE. Literally, about $500/corner. You should pick them up if they are there and not rusted through.

    They basically cap the ends of the bumpers.
     

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  18. Squablow
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    I actually need a pair of bumpers to fit bumper wings to, me and another guy are making reproductions.

    The bumpers only have to be nice at the ends, that's all we're concerned with. They're not getting plated or used on a car.

    If you're looking for other stuff to get to sell, front fenders for these cars are really hard to come by in good shape, and the "roll pan" or whatever you want to call it under the front bumper is another hard to find piece, in any condition. Side trim is worth money and so are nice steering wheels. If you could shoot a couple pictures of it, I could tell you exactly what pieces would be worth pulling for resale.
     
  19. fiat128
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    I'll get pix of it. The steering wheel is still there. I already have the center chome part but the wheel is stuck fast. I hope it is still there and not under some parking lot by now.
     
  20. fiat128
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    Well, I have bad news HAMBers, the car is gone. I drove over to where the car was and right as I got there I came across an enormous construction zone. Seems the they decide that the outer beltline around Raleigh should pass about 1/2 a mile from where the car was sitting. When they build the onramp to this, the big trashpile was exposed and it looks like someone picked all of the heavy objects out of the pile (the trash is still there, right before Clayton exit on I-40 if someone wants to go snooping around). It's probably been gone less than a couple of months.

    Bummer but I guess the good part is that I got the grille, emblems parts of the dash and the trunk lid years ago off the car so at least some of it got saved.

    This just goes to show that if you find something like this, go after it. The pace of development in this country is crazy and stuff like this is getting bulldozed everyday. When I was a kid there were lots of cool old buildings all over North Carolina to explore, now most of them are underneath Wal-Mart parking lots.

    After this, I went to check on a shoebox Ford I remembered seeing years ago on the side of the interstate. It's still there but when I got out of the car to go get some close up pictures (which I couldn't because there is a river beside the road) I discovered that this car is not a Ford but either a 55 or 56 Chevy. It's pretty far from the road and hard to see. This is the best photo I could get of the car and when I go back next month I will investigate more and see if I can get the car. This one probably has an owner as there is property behind it.
     

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  21. Squablow
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    Cool. If it's a Belair post, I'll buy all the side trim from around the side windows off of it.

    You find all kinds of cool shit. Good point about getting the stuff while it's there. It might not be there when you're ready for it, gotta get it right away.
     
  22. uneasyrider
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    Nice car dude! :D
     
  23. A Boner
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    Front fenders for these cars are really hard to come by! Wonder why?

    I had a 57 Savoy, and by 1961 the FRONT FENDERS were starting to rust above the headlights. That was my first and last Mopar. My next car was a 58 Corvette. Guess that may be the reason I consider myself a Tupperware kind of guy.

    I don't remember the displacement of the V8 engine in it, but I do remember that in 1961 it burned some oil!!!

    The only slick thing about that car was the torsion bar front suspension....crank two bolts at the back of the bars, and the front end was slammed. Not only was it slammed, but it actually softened the ride!
     
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  24. Y Block ECZ
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    I own a 1957 Plymouth Savoy 2 door HT. The sport models like mine came with the 318 and 2 speed powerflight. Its the 4 door and cheaper models that would most likely come with the smaller engines. The bummer about mine is i've had torn apart rebuilt and now waits on .30 pistons to complete the job and I cant seem to come up with the cash to do so. Its now going on 4 years since I started.oh well. Still love looking at it though
     
  25. Y Block ECZ
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    I however might sell my polished P600 3x2 intake. super shiny and f'n rare! Any takers message me
     
  26. Normbc9
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    I ran regulayly against a 318 poly in a a factory sponsored 318 poly with a dual quads. It was called an "Export" version PUSH BUTTON TANNY AND ALL. IT RAN GOOD.
    He regularly ate the Chevy 283's. Normbc9
     
  27. Rusty O'Toole
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    57 Plymouth Fury 290HP 318 was the fastest car in its class. Way over the Fords and Chevs. This is the 318 with 2 - 4's in Christine.

    57 first year of 3 speed Torqueflite, torsion bar suspension, BIG tailfins, swivel bucket seats.

    58 and 59, basically the same car, but new big wedge head B engine available.
     
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  28. MercFlash
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    My family owned a 1957 Plymouth new and it was the worst car imaginable. As I understand it the 57 Plymouth was slated to be the 1960 Plymouth and they rushed it into production. In any event avoid late 50's Plymouths.
     
  29. George
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    In the movie it was a 2X4 350 BB, in the book it was a Poly in 1 place & a nonexistent size BB in another part.
     
  30. Gotgas
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    Did you really dig up an ancient thread just to post that? :rolleyes:

    Contrary to what you may want, the '57-58 Plymouth is one of the best-looking cars built in the '50s, so they are going to remain popular.
     
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