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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Flat Ernie, Jun 20, 2004.

  1. mr57
    Joined: Jun 3, 2002
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    I am just getting started with putting a T-5 into my 57 half ton. Will be posting pics as soon as it's done.......
     
  2. Flat Ernie
    Joined: Jun 5, 2002
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    I posted the file over at Fordbarn & one of the guys over there posted this:
    http://pomoforacing.com/tech/T5Rebuild2002.pdf

    This is an oustanding practical rebuild guide - as opposed to the technical rebuild guide I linked to before. It has lots of the mods & upgrades that you can do.

    It also points out the differences between early/late tailshafts & the synchro on the 5th gear/countershaft oiler...an area to watch if you're putting an S10 tailshaft onto a WC T5.
     
  3. I thank you also Ernie..
     
  4. Southfork
    Joined: Dec 15, 2001
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    Hey, yeah, thanks, Ernie!
     
  5. Jeff Norwell
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    Many thanks Ernie!!
     
  6. Mad-Lad
    Joined: Jul 2, 2005
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    Thanks for the info Flat Erni.....Im in the process of putting a T-5 behind a 53 Merc and your info helped me out a bundle....Thanks again...

    p.s.....any neat tricks and hints I should keep an eye out for when performing this?:confused:
     
  7. sodapop
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    from Tejas

    wow, thanks for the info.
     
  8. burger
    Joined: Sep 19, 2002
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    Ernie,

    Thank you for the links. I had never seen the second (less formal) rebuild guide. It's great!

    Here's a link to a chart that a HAMBer (name long forgotten, sorry!) sent to me to host on my website:

    http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~erb22

    A while back, you'd mentioned that you've been adding to the chart and have a more complete version. If you wouldn't mind, I'd love to update my chart with your information.


    Thanks!
    Ed
     
  9. kornbinder
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  10. Bruce Lancaster
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    "I wonder how you identify one of these T5 trannies when the ID tag that the article talks about has somehow become detached from the ****** and lost? "

    There is a con****uous beaing on the front, I think the cluster bearing, that differs in appearance and in stamped brand name...someone on here will know the specifics.
     
  11. Flat Ernie
    Joined: Jun 5, 2002
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    Most of my updates are for the Ford Mustang stuff where there's loads more info (torque ratings, dimensions, etc.) - there's not a lot of new info yet, but I always check every listing I find & compare to what I've got. I keep it in Excel & can sort by tag number or make/model, etc - quite handy. It started life as the one you've got posted.


    That will get you WC vs NWC. The NWC looks just like a freeze plug, the WC looks like two concentric circles. Here's a couple pics I stole from someone else on here.

    As you can see in the pics, the NWC has a co****r input spline count than the WC - this is usually true (85%+), so can serve as a quick VID. I think there are co**** WC, but no fine NWC...but don't hold me to that!

    Also, if the aluminum tag is missing, there is often a bar-code sticker on the top cover. If this is present, the tag number will be on here - same format: 1352-**x
     

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  12. triplexkustoms
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    i was looking at the flato site the other day and i think they offer the whole clutch kit.
     
  13. hotrodA
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  14. Flat Ernie
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    I've got one of his combos - I'm fairly confident it won't work with the Ford T5 as-is, but wouldn't be difficult to re-drill for the Ford bolt pattern. However, thickness may be different - have to check...that's why I recommended doing it from scratch...;) I'm a big fan of Dwight's product - cheap for what it is.
     
  15. I believe Cornhuskers makes a t5 adapter as well as many other flatty parts. I have no idea of the price.
     
  16. hotrodA
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    You're right, it's for a Chevy.
     
  17. Skotz
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    Thanks Flat Ernie,
    Running one of these in my new project and enjoy learning all I can about them.
     
  18. Rand Man
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    Great article. Thanks a lot mate.
     
  19. kentucky
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    There's at least one, in the floor of my garage. I just checked:D
     
  20. Thanks for the information, I just finished installing an 89 S10 T-5 in my 51-F1 behind a 226 Flathead 6 cylinder. It made a world of difference coulped with the 9" rearend and 3.23 gears.
     
  21. looz nutz
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    Dammm! I was going to put a normal 3 speed overdrive on my T coupe. Now with all this information, perhaps it is better to put a t-5 instead. Specially with the price of gas going up. Thank you Mr Bush!!. Thank you Flathead Earnie. Now one question what the hell did you do with Burt??!!!;)
     
  22. Bondoboy
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    I found out what I was looking for. I guess I have a "T50"
     
  23. Mart
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    Hey Bondoboy, can you please edit your post with a carraige return (enter key with the bent arrow) between each pic link?
    That'll stop the mega-wide page syndrome.
    Thanks.
    Mart.
     
  24. ian
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    Awsome! Thanks.
     
  25. PurplePearl50
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    how about mounting it on to aChevy 250 inline 6?
     
  26. Snarl
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    I'll add a couple things to the artlicle.

    Chevy didn't start using a hydraulic clutch until '84.

    All Camaro V8 T5's, and that means NWC and WC, were 26 spline. I have a NWC one.

    S10 versions, and possibly others, have a longer input shaft and need shortening if being used in a "normal" Chevy application.

    You can switch from electric to mechanical speedo on Camaro versions, but not on S10 versions.
     
  27. henryj429
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    Thanks for the great info Ernie! I will be putting a T5 behind a 330 DeSoto hemi and the job will be a little easier now. I hear that Wilcap makes a nice adapter for this application.
     
  28. Flat Ernie
    Joined: Jun 5, 2002
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    Snarl, thanks for the inputs - question here:

    How much are we talking? Because they work fine on all the adapted applications - ie the flathead using a Chevy trans-to-flathead engine adapter - which was originally designed for the old Muncie/Saginaw/T10 ******s...

    I know the Ford T5 has 3 different input shaft lengths, but had never heard of any difference in the Chevy input shaft lengths - if true, so much for the legendary interchange...;)
     
  29. tjm73
    Joined: Feb 17, 2006
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    Also, I have read that the V8 and I4 Mustang T5's had different diameter input shaft's where the tip of the shaft rides in the end of the crank. Why I do not know. But lots of V8 guys run the 4 cylinder boxes for a long time. I've not been able to confirm or disprove this.

    Edit: Maybe it's the clutch that's different.

    Edit 2: It's the clutch. V8 got 10.5" and 2.3 got 8.5"
     

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