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Shift problems with a Ford AOD

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by topcat662, Mar 19, 2007.

  1. topcat662
    Joined: Feb 14, 2006
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    Anyone have any advice on getting an AOD to shift properly. I have one behind a 302. I wish I didn't at this point but I do. 1st and reverse work but it won't shift out of first. This is the second ****** I have tried with the same result. There are no vacuum ports on the ******. The only electrical connectors are for nuetral safty and backup lughts. I have tried a TV cable and now have a TV rod. I have been told that it is probably an adjustment on the TV rod. I have also been told that I need a kit that has to be added to the ****** to give it a vacuum port. The kit doesn't even seem to exist and doesn't seem to make sence since the ****** doesn't need one on a factory setup. Need help ASAP. Thanks Ahead of time,
    Eddie:confused:
     
  2. Gotgas
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    Definitely a TV cable adjustment issue.

    Get a Ford manual for adjustment specs. Don't drive it with it again until it's adjusted, it will burn up the trans...
     
  3. skidmarkjunkies
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    This is absolutely true the trans will be ruined quickly!!!
    I ran the AOD in my 29 ford it was A excellent transmission. But... the trans valve was a Huge Pain in the *** to Adjust correctly.
    if you get ther adjustment right that transmission is incredible.
     
  4. topcat662
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    I have tried adjusting both of them ( the ******s) following the instructions. I must be doing something wrong. Any advice on the adjustments? I have been told that the TV should follow the full throttle travel. Does this sound correct? Thanks for the help by the way.
    Eddie
     
  5. topcat662
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    That makes me feel a little better. I didn't realise that the adujustment was so sensitive. I'll keep trying.
    Thanks for the help.
    Eddie
     
  6. dbu8554
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    ok dude I know this goes against HAMB but most ****** shops know how to adjust the TV cable and have done it for me in the past for free and honestly it should not cost more then 40$ if they are going to charge you. And I thought the AOD needed vacuum line going to it maybe I am wrong on this one but...

    http://www.network54.com/Forum/260730/

    Ask these guys, now before anyone deletes my post for redirecting traffic I dont want this guy to blow up his transmission.

    Anyways the guys on this site are really smart many own shops and whatnot hope they help man also if you look around that Bad Shoe Productions page he has a video on adjusting the TV cable.
     
  7. topcat662
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    I'm give it a try thanks man!
    Eddie
     
  8. skidmarkjunkies
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    If you have all the stock linkage for the TV. adjusting the trans should be easy.
    I did not have any linkage for my AOD. i also did not have the little arm that goes on the TV shaft on the transmission. I had to make all these little pieces.
    the first time i took the car out i had the TV set up Completely backwards.
    it took alot of trial and error to get it to work right.
    I ended up using a clutch cable from a Honda CB 550 and i also used a spring on the transmission end.
    Dont be Afraid to start over if your set up is not right!!!
    When i got the Trans Valve to work the car was Incredible.
    My 29 ford was capable of extremely high speed. the Combination of large tires in the rear plus the Overdrive I beleive that car would have done 120mph plus.
     
  9. topcat662
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    I had to put mine together as well. I'll keep trying though. Thanks for the help!
    Eddie
     
  10. Da' Bomb
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    I used the Lokar kit.....follow their instructions using the spacer and oil pressure and you'll be fine.
    Pat
     
  11. I just installed the Lokar kit, used the spacer and oil pressure gauge, but no luck.
    My ****** guy will have to do the job.
     
  12. You're on the right track...it doesn't say in your original post, but if the 302 is carbureted, save yourself some grief & get a Lokar or Edelbrock BRACKET for the attachment to the carb. You need to worry about the "geometry" of the cable as well as the adjustment...otherwise, when you adjust it to work at a certain throttle opening, it may be wrong at a different one.

    And yes, it is sensitive. :D
     
  13. topcat662
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    I FINALLY GOT THE MOTHER *&%$@# to work!!!!!

    My 302 is carburated so I tried useing the "rod linkage" from a truck. I tried the lokar linkage with another ****** and had the same problems. Never got to adjust it all the way because some sob stole my carburater and just cut the linkage. The rod seems easier but all you guys were right it is very sensitive. A guy from the ****** place up the road from me said they hated doing them cause the were such a pain. But once you finally get it it's worth it!

    Eddie
     
  14. texasmustang
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    hey im having the same problem..got a 66 mustang with a 302 and trans out of what i believe is an 86 or 87 mustang..goes in reverse and first gear..wont shift up..i disconnected the linkage and put it in drive manually down on the trans..still wouldnt shift..is the trans garbage or am i missing something..changed the filter and put in new fluid..still wont shift up..help!! this thing is kicking my ****
     
  15. okiedokie
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    Not hard at all [I did it for Pete's sake], used Lokar set up, added a spring to pull it a little farther than the Lokar set up allowed [might have been my ****** as it is a used one], got a pressure gauge and set it to specs. It has worked for about 15,000 miles since. Joe
     
  16. K D Redd
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    I have a AODE in a 1993 Cougar with a 3.8 V-6. The shift into OD is getting funky. Some time it will shift OK. Other time it seams to shift but it slips. If you speed the engine up it with complete the shift. I did a filter a couple on month ago. There was no GLITTER or any band material in the pan. I was surprised it was as clean as it was. The oil was discolored because of the slipping and heat. I talked to a transmission guy, who had called me about one of my Hemi Trans adapter. He told me I needed to tighten the valve body bolts. If this is true, WHAT is the tightening torque I should use. I know the bolts are metric but I would like the info in In/Lbs. If I can get this info. I am going to drain the torque converter this time also as the guy I talked to told me the converter had a oil drain plug.

    Kent
     
  17. Ice man
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    Most guys that have them in Hot Rods that I have seen, have mounted a pressure guage to the fire wall and set them at factory pressure, which I believe is 35 PSI. They work very nicely when you do it the way the factory says. Iceman
     
  18. go-twichy
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    i installed one in my 64 econoline with a 302 also and i love it. i used the lokar cable but made my own bracket to bolt to the intake. the lokar deflected to much in my opinon. it's not that tuff to get it right or close. just remember, more pressure is better than not enough. now to put in the proper 3.70 gears i've had on the shelve for two years and it will get off the line alittle quicker too.
     
  19. JeffB2
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    This is not an uncommon problem with an AOD,if the transmission has sat a while before you used it it could be a stuck governor,check out the forum at www.clickclickracing.com and you will find quite a few posts on this subject as this is an all AOD site.
     
  20. JeffB2
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    35 psi is with the spacer gauge in place,at idle is 2-5 psi here is a good explanation of adjustment procedure: http://www.becontrols.com/tech/tvlinkage.htm also check out the troubleshooting section under the Tech section.
     
  21. larryj
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    Had same problem with my AOD after sitting 12 years. After about a hundred miles or so, it freed up nicely.

    My shifts were still not in the right place even with the TV pressure set properly when it dawned on my idiot head that my rear end was from a non-overdrive car and the shifts were exactly where they should be for the 2.79 ratio and the .67 overdrive.

    If your rear gears are not in the 3.20+ range, your shifts will feel late and sluggish. A 3.55 gives me around 2200 rpms at 70 mph and overdrive at 45-50 mph.
     
  22. K D Redd
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    The transmission I am dealing with has not sat any. It is in the wife's 1993 Cougar with a 3.8 V-6. The only thing I might have done to upset the shifting Is a pulled the intake and heads a few years ago to cure a blown head gasket. The shifting problem started about 2 years ago. I am going to pull the pan again, I had it off about a month ago, and see if all of the valve body bolts are tight. This was suggested as the problem by a retire auto trans mechanic I talked to.

    Kent
     
  23. Gearhead Graphics
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    Bringing up an old thread as it seems to answer a bit of what im looking at.

    My AOD shifts pretty late. I did the "no slack no tension" adjustment and its pretty late. As per my trans guy I unhooked the TV cable for a trip around the block, still shifts super late.

    The trans has been sitting a while, suppose its something gummed up and it might come out of it?

    Also, the TV adjustment via the gauge, is that a vacuum gauge or a pressure gauge?
     
  24. JeffB2
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    If it has sat for a while it is common for an AOD 's governor to stick you have a couple options one is to pour in a can of Berryman Chem-Tool and run it and see if it frees up after about an hour the other option is to remove the tailshaft and clean the governor here is a video done by a member of our Ford Group http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZwsQViZilQ this shows how to remove the governor: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthread.php?15311-transmission-AOD-Governor-swap For the best info on the AOD check in here: www.clickclickracing.com If you do the first option you will need to do a filter and fluid change.
     
  25. 1954fordcoupe
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    I found recently on my many internet searches that if you have an AOD thats been built with a shift kit and a little stronger that the Lokar instructions are trash. Lentech has a write up that says to check pressure in park and have about 2 to 5 psi (with no spacer). This puts my ****** using the Lokar directions at about 45 to 48 psi with their spacer. It was a world of difference. My small block 289 feels like a big block now compared to how it was before. Also you need the geometry correction bracket for your particular carb.
     

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