Professional shops to avoid in CA??

my mistake-

 

Welcome to the world of hot rods!!..........OLDBEET

 

greaseball, sorry to hear that, saw your ride looked like progress. you should look up Bigdad's nightmare with a shop. That is one reason I've strayed from leaving my car at a shop.

 

bummer---- become a builder and not a buyer..... and avoid tragedy in the future


AVOID THE BOYD

 

sol

 

lol! Well take their ass to court

 

Are you sure you want to write text like that in public, they can sue you...? Happened here...

 

sorry to hear that, you might consider Small Claims Court.

What the hell right?

Post thier number so the HAMB can call and rip them a new one.

That would be funny

 

Burn em out

 

Hmm we're on a one sided witch hunt....

I think personally that check writer car builder to shop disputes are OT threads on this board, primarily built of DIY people.

Secondly it seems more like a rant than a clearly spelled out problem. My point..an EZ wire harness at my cost, which is kinda cheap, is $130-150...every general repair shop Ive worked at will get 75%-100% above jobber rate as retail to the customer...so doing the math a store buys an alternator for $20, sells for $50 to shop at wholesale, and that alt costs the customer $100 + labor. Markup keeps a lot of lights on at a lot of places...

Every shop Ive worked at have had pain in the ass customers too...that complain about everything but keep coming back. Not saying this is you, but....without more facts this rant is just that, a name calling rant.

 

What UnIOViLLEHauNT said.

 

not everyone can or even should build everything on their cars. you have to recognise your short comings and adapt to them. some people can build and entire car themselves and i say good for them. some people can do parts of the build but will (or should) contract some of the work out.a nd yet others can't (or choose not to) build anything on their car. there is room for EVERYONE as far as i'm concerned. there are alot of people on here and in the real world that feed their families by working on those people's cars.

it's too bad that you had a bad experience. i think i'd be a little pist too if they did stuff you did'nt want them to do and then charged you for it. i'd seriously question those decisions on their part. if they do not make it right and you still feel you have been seriously wronged there is always the legal system. i'd try to resolve it otherwise first though.

my girlfriend's dad is having somebody build some motor for his car and from what i've heard (i don't have anywhere near all the details) the guy wants to build it to be a much bigger and badder motor than what her dad actually wants. he told me the other day that the guy just bought a Jesel belt drive for it after he was told not to. but now the guy did it and her dad somehow feels that he is stuck with it and might aswell go along. apparently it's been this way through the build of the motor. this guy is spending her dad's money to build the motor HE wants to build not the motor her dad wants. personaly i'd put my foot down but her dad is too nice or something. anyway, good luck with your situation.

 

I ran into this once when I was working with my dad at his place. Had a customer come in once for a brake job, and when she left, she returned a few minutes later - PISSED - because her power windows now squeeked! (See the 20' strip of dirt between the blacktop 2 lane highway and the concrete pads in front of the shop).

Well, the old man laughed at her, sprayed her car down with water, and fixed the problem!

 

As a hot rod shop owner for 30 yrs or so i think both sides should be heard if it is in a public forum. This is why i work on one car at a time and pick my customers . we have an understanding and both parties have to live up to it.
I suspect there are some underlying reasons for your sour deal that will not come out in a one sided slash......bottom line don't slam all shops because your pissed at 1........

 

all shop in calif that work on cars much give a written estimate , with out a that estimate you are not required to pay its the law no go and f???? the guy

 

I agree, not everyone should be a home builder, if they were I'd be out of a job. I'm confussed on how this situation got out of hand. If the shop added work/ parts that wern't authorized over the quote I think you would have a case for small claims court. I thought California especially had laws on that. If you let them work without a "in writing" quote you probably don't. I never give my customers "quotes", too many varibles to deal with but I never have problems because I insist on lots of comunications so there are no surprizes at bill time. I even tell them up front how much markup on parts I'm charging and will show them my invoice. I know there are shops that rip guys off, every town have them and always will, but thats the real world. Not just rod shops but service industries in the whole have rip off artists. Buisiness open, rip people off, get sued, close up and move on and customers lose out. It's called BUYER BEWARE. I wouldn't take my car to any shop without a lot of homework first, especially for high ticket work like a turn key rod. Did you talk to other customers first to see if they left happy or did you just let the shop "sell them self"? Check their BBB rating? I'm not saying your not a victom, and I feel sorry for you but I can't wonder how much is your fault for letting it happen.

 

Yep...lived here all my life and never heard a bad word on either shop.

Bryan

 

There's always another side to every story........ somehow I believe the actual fabricator, knowing from experience how customers want changes but don't want to pay extra. QUALITY costs money and takes time.

Making threats with a gun online... that can get you jail time in California.

 

Just can't understand why you would shoot your mouth off on an open forum. If you have an issue,use the PM. Like i've always said. 10 people go into a movie,5 like it ,5 don't! SAME MOVIE! I've heard nothing but good stuff about Roseville R&C. Maybe the problem is yours! Hate it when guys open there mouths in public,when it should a private matter.
Oh yea...threats about usuing a gun on a public forum! That's makes me believe it's all you.

 

When you bring your car to my shop you pay me for my expertise in building cars. I have certain products that I use because they work , not because they are cheap. Often some of the cheaper parts are no bargain when you have to take the extra time to troubleshoot or add on to bring them up to a reasonable standard. I certainly would not want to help you correct any problem if you went after me or my work in a public forum. Threaten to shoot me and the sherrif will invite you to leave and not come back. Temper tantrums will not help and only serve to demean you in the eyes of others. Go to the shop calmly and rationally and you may come out with a more pleaseing resolution. Jay

 

In most cases it is impossible to give a accurate estimate on a custom build, no mater if it's a car or a bike. When you build a one off custom vehicle you run into issues and problems that can't always be forseen, so giving a written estimate is impossible, the best thing you can do is give a guess. If my customers ask me how much to build a custom bike I'll give them a estimate on the parts but on the labor I usually tell them it starts at $10.000 for a complete bike and goes up from there and it usually does.

 

Hey Jalpoy Joker. Do you have the same dumbass response to all threads? If you don't have anything to add...then don't. Your not the moderator!

 

thats some funny shit bob, i thought the same.hey jolopy stop trying to run up your post count with the same responce..

 

hmmm...I went to their website a few weeks ago to check progress on your ride and it wasn't there. I've met Ben more than a few times, I even hung out at his shop. Seemed like a good guy to me. I was wondering what happened. Hope you get everything worked out. Nothing is worth threatening a life over... I'd delete it Justin. shoot me a pm....

speedy

 

California has a very strong Bureau of Auto Repair. All work I have had done by a pro shop gave me a written estimate that we both signed. It was for the protection of both of us. I was called if anything came up that would push up the price and had the option of having them do additional work or not. Good work ain't cheap, cheap work ain't good. The shop owner did everything by the rules set up by the B A R. I got a good job, I paid the bill!

 

Hello..Well, all you shop owners, are you saying that there is not item list for work to be done or contract written..I understand hidden problems..
I just got scared, I'm looking at the 1st week of May to have mine started..In California...
I think a adult attitude in dealing with your disappoints would get you further..Feelings, cloud good thinking..
Duane...

 

"Ladies and gentlemen....Elvis has left the building!"

Who do you think you are, jackass?

 

My family owns a cycle shop and general auto repair shop in Florida. A 90% or 100% mark up on parts is unreasonable and bad business. If we charged that much for parts we would be outa business. I guess kustoms shops can get away with this but I dont see how. You should be making your money on labor not parts that you didnt make. On another note there are two types of customers actually three. The one that drops their car off to have it fixed and doesn’t worry about the cost because they know that we will only fix what’s broke and not just replace stuff to rack up the bill (these customers never complain). The next customer wants ever thing for free never has the money and talks about the shop down the street that is cheaper, but they still keep coming to us instead. The third is pretty much like the second but more rude and are usually told to leave and never come back but after they realize we are the cheapest in town have been in business longer than everyone else they apologize and we work on their car. If you take your car to someone else to work on it, its gonna cost money plain and simple. If you’re unhappy with the cost tell them. If your complaints are valid and they value your business they will work with you. If I paid someone to build my car I wouldn’t be able to afford one not even my daily.

 

What he said. Three posts at almost the same time, same day, same response. If you don't like what you're reading, use the "Back" button at the top.

 

Amen!