Someone please help me. I have been looking numerous places for a flat green paint for my truck. I can not find anything. I have even looked here and google for hours to find some direction and have come up with nothing. I am looking for a flat dark green paint job with no gloss and no shine what so ever. I would like to have 2 gallons. No rattle can. Any i deas or places you know where i can get that paint would be very appreciated.
I have heard about hot rod flatz and have looked on their website but i have heard that they are not truly flat and still have a semi gloss to them. If this isnt true that would be great. Has anyone else heard the same thing.
thats easy, go down to your local automotive paint store , pick out a color and ask for just the base color, thats all i did and its easy to mix and spray, i picked a old military green.
Do you happen to know what that matting agent is called. Anywhere on the internet where i can buy it.
Yeah, if you can't find something you like, I'd just pick a color you like out (millions of formulas to choose from) and add a flattening agent to your paint. You can either pick a singlestage paint, or if base clear add it to the clearcoat. Spray some test pieces, till you have added the correct amount of flattener for the gloss level you are looking for. Hope you spray it well, cause you really can't really sand and buff if flat is what your after. I wouldn't use a basecoat type paint, these are meant to be clearcoated and won't have good durability, resistance to chemicals and uv. Flattener should be pretty universal, its mainly talc and solvents. Another option might be an epoxy primer. Nason makes a green one that will dry pretty flat. PPG dp also use to have grey-green epoxy. There not really dark though. Since primer is not meant to be left un topcoated it will chalk over time, but epoxy should resist chemicals and provide protection. Spi makes a flattening agent, and should be better prices then something you would buy from ppg or dupont, and they have quality stuff. Haven't used the flattening agent, but that should be a pretty universal product. http://southernpolyurethanes.com/Tech%20Sheets/Liquid%20Flattening%20Agent.htm http://www.bakerpbe.com/catalog.php?VendID=SOUT05&descr=flattening
you can also use a flat clear coat, you can get it at any auto paint store. so even if your green paint isnt as flat as ya like the flat clear coat will take care of ya.
im a bodyman. but audi's use that for bumpers in sikkens its autoclearIII matte agent 604 i think not 100% ill check with my painter on monday and get back to you
The hard part is finding the ratio of flattener to use that gives you your desired repeatable effect. I was surprised that it took a lot of flattener to get the effect that I wanted. I mixed up 3 samples each with more flattener noting the percentages that I used. I never got close to a matte finish. It turned out that I liked the shiny paint so much that I abandoned the flattening agent. The paint store counter man wasn't much help. My request was odd to them. Once you get the ratios right you'll be OK. That can be a challenge. At least it was for me. PS I wanted a semi flat dark green also. I picked one from their universal commercial paint chip chart. No metallics to mess with.
I helped a friend paint his car once and he was going for a flat lavender. He bought flattening agent but it didn't do much even though he used twice as much as they said he needed, and he ran out. This was on a weekend and he couldn't get anymore. I told him that they used to use baby powder, but he didn't want to hear it till I finally got him to read the label on that expensive flattening agent, it was just talc mixed with reducer. He went and bought a bunch of baby powder and it gave him the desired flat finish, and made the car smell great. He had the car for about a year after that and the paint held up very well, and always had a nice smell, sort of like a scratch and sniff. I don't know if I'd use it in clear coat though since it may cause it to turn cloudy, in fact, I'm not advising anyone to try it on anything, I'm just saying it worked great for us.
I like shiney paint too, which is why I really haven't sprayed much flat. Had to add the flattener to some single stage years ago at a bodyshop to spray some resteraunt equiptment though. I guess if a lot of time spent getting a body into shape I don't understand this flat paint craze not showing it off, or using tractor enamel. Or trying to make it look rusty, see enough of that naturally around this area. I suppose though, depends on your taste and budget, when I was a teenager, a lot of people thought it was cool running around in black primer. But flattening a good 2k paint, not saving any money.
If you use a flatening agent be sure you dont pile it on in heavy coats. Do a bunch of light coats instead of 3-4 heavy coats. Heavy coats tends to kill the effect of the flatening agent. Which is probly what to roddinron's friend.
Let me just set the record staight that I also like the gloss finish but that costs a lot of money and takes alot of time to get the body work perfect. I have been working alot on the body but there comes a point where you do so much to the truck and it is so close to being drivable you will put some stuff to the side just to get it on the road and still look representable. That is where I am at. Get the truck on the road until the next winter and finish everything up then.
Hey, If you're jus' lookin' to get a year-tops, I'd just have a primer/sealer tinted to your choice of green. No flatening compound necessary. Later, after you've finished the metalwork select a quality top coat and have a shop that knows something about paint mix it. I'd stear clear of clear coats mixed with flatening compounds over deep based colours. Flatening compounds absorb a good deal of the binder (that's the stuff in paint that helps it stick to what ever its shot on) mixed into the paint. To little binder mixed into a paint formula and you can expect the job to fail early, little or nothin' to hold the pig- ments (colour) onto the job. S****ey Devils C.C.
Got a funny story about tinting primer. That is what I did in the first place. Went to a place called talley's and asked them if they could tint the primer they had to match a dark green. They said sure. Came in a few days later and they said they had some problems and showed me the color and it was a turquoise. Called me 2 days later and said it was ready. Picked it up and it had a gloss to it. Sprayed it on anyways like a dumb*** and came out like a gloss paint job. Too many minor body defects to leave it. I called the place and they said they added 2 quarts of color with a quart and a half of primer. I couldnt believe it. Way to much work and time that is why I had to come and ask for help on the HAMB. Murphy's Law
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