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Cab-Forward Jeeps, school me.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by guiseart, May 5, 2007.

  1. guiseart
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    Looking for a good solid base for a shop truck, granite-hauler actually. Found this behind the elevator in my new town... LOVE the look. Without opening doors and finding the numbers, were these 3/4 ton? Four wheel drive I can see, but what kinda flathead? IH? Did Jeep make its own flatheads? I didn't wat to nose around too badly today, buckshot is cheap in Kansas and these ol' boys use it on occ***ion.

    And what year is this one?

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  2. brownbagg
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    that puppy is wotrh alot of money, not many around. Its a regular cj drive train with the cab forward. I say its worth 10k as it is.
     
  3. 1931S/X
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    those are cool, i didnt think they were so valuable though. got some sort of pto on it? pretty neat.
     
  4. guiseart
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    looks like an old PTO setup, I need a flatbed and a hoist to pick up and set off a ton of granite at a time, this just looks like it would fit the bill... don't tell the owner that 10k **** man!
     
  5. banzaitoyota
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    they actually make replacement panels for those. Search the net young skywalker
     
  6. 72sst
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    No,not to many around but also not real valuable either.They came as FC150 OR 1/2 ton to I believe a 1 ton.It had a flat 4 under a hump near the seats.Probably worth a grand depending on its current condition.I would save it though as they are neat.
     
  7. guiseart
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    can you tell what year, or like all Jeeps, they all look the same?
     
  8. 72sst
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    I would say maybe 1962-early 60s.
     
  9. guiseart
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    whoa - cool...

    says they were produced from 1956 to 1965.
    It's growing on me bigtime.
     

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  10. 72sst
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    I think its a great find!I love those!
     
  11. jeepbut
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    The trucks were called Forward Control models. The FC series were made from 1957 to 1964. The FC 150 was an 81 inch wb and had the Jeep F-head 4-clyinder. The FC 170 was a 103.5 inch wb and came with the Jeep flathead 6-cylinder. All with five lug Ford pickup pattern useing a semi-floating rear axle. What I see is $500- $1000 if the body is solid. They made a few one ton flatbeds with dual rear wheels with an odd, large 6 lug bolt pattern. These are rare and hard to find. Really nice FC's can be had in the $5000-$8000 dollar range. Check out willystech.com for more information. For what you are needing a truck for, this is probably not going to work very well. Lightly built frames that flex a lot and the semi-floating rear axles are prone to failure with evan moderate loads. Please save it as a toy! Thanks, Lyman.
     
  12. HotRodFreak
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    Back when I was a four wheel drive freak doing Pismo dunes and Death Valley area explorations, I had three of them. FC stands for Forward Control. They were produced from about 58-63.
    The FC-50 is the shorter wheelbase with narrower CJ front and rear ends, not very stable. The FC-170 has a 10' bed and is longer with wider front and rear from pickup, much more stable.
    Mine were all FC-170's with the dependable indestructable flathead Hurricane six, same basic engine was in Kaisers and studebakers.
    One had a 10' flatbed hoist. They are low geared so I installed an overdrive from an old studebaker for freeway cruising.
    It was great fun with super visibility since the seat is so high. I had 15'x10" wide wheels made for it with truck tires for better stability. My kids called the "Creepy Crawler".
    There was also a military version VAN that a buddy had...way Kool.
    I have access to a couple in MT for parts if needed.
     
  13. 1952henry
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    The dual wheel FC170s had Dana 70 rear axles and a WG T98 synchro four speed. Some military versions had a 3 cylinder Cerlist diesel in them=gutless. I think the DRW option came with 5:38s, so an OD would be nice. I don't think they are worth $10,000, unless major work has been performed. I saw a magazine feature on a fellow who put a well-built 351 Ford in a DRW FC170. Apparently it had some torque.
     
  14. guiseart
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    went back and checked the badge, it's the FC-170.
    The original drivetrain would probably not stay, although I do dig the wheels... I was thinking about a later model 4wd swap in, selling the FC Jeep stuff to enthusiasts.

    I'm not driving across country with granite, maybe 100 miles at the most, so this just might work with a newer Jeep transfercase and driveline?

    (damn we got some serious Jeep freaks in the HAMB, who knew?) Thanks for all the responses.
     
  15. There's a BIG write up on them in last months "Hemmings Cl***ic Car" magazine
     
  16. tommy
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    I have great memories of their TV commercials. I wish I could remember what show they sponsored but they had some real cool video of them usually working on a ranch or a farm. It's funny how those commercials stick in my feeble gray matter. They were and are unique.
     
  17. Mojo
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    Screw that mess, put a big v-8 behind the cab, turn it into a wheelstander!
     
  18. zman
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    LMAO... not even close.... well unless you have 10k to give him... :D

    **** that... hot rod that *****.... **** the restorers... :eek:
     
  19. 1931S/X
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    i would put a set of danas under it with a 4 cyl ***mins.
     
  20. Wrecking yard here just crushed one with Michigan plates on it.....
     
  21. Flatdog
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    I have a friend that works with what he calls "blunt nose jeeps" till today.He use them to spreed fetilizer on golf courses and big estates .He loves and need the visionhe get out of them.
     
  22. Gr8lite
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    Not actually "same as CJ" I believe they were factory "spring over axle" There were 1/4 ton , 1/2 ton and very rare 3/4 ton. There were even some build with dual wheels. The military used quite a few of them , Air Force especially. Good Luck !
     
  23. guiseart
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    yeah, I think I'm gonna work on getting it, even if it sits around my backyard for awhile... looking more like a lost little bulldog waiting for a home every time I drive by. Folks say it's been there for quite awhile, so I might be the only one looking at it... that or the owner don't want to get rid of it. I will keep everyone posted, thanks again!
     
  24. guiseart
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    Forward Control 150 and 170

    [​IMG]In 1956, the Willys Motor Company (Kaiser purchased Willyls-Overland in 1953 and changed the name) introduced the snub-nosed "Forward Control" model (shown at right). None of the "Big Three" American autmakers had made much of a foray into the lightweight 4x4 utility vehicle market. Introduced as the FC-100, it featured a cab-over-engine design. It was powered by the familiar Jeep 75hp F-Head inline 4 and was equipped with nine forward and three reverse gear combinations. The selling points incuded larger pay load capacity with the cab moved up over the engine, increased visibility, put at 200% more than in conventional vehicles of comparable size and the power and maneuverability of four-wheel-drive on an 81" wheelbase. [​IMG]At the end of 1956, the FC-150 model was introduced, and the FC-170 came out in late 1957 at approximately 7,000 lbs., a wheelbase of 103.5", and the 105hp "Super Hurricane" engine. Neither model was a big seller for Willys. The heaviest truck Willys ever produced was the FC-170 DRW (shown at right) available with dual rear wheels in gross weight ratings of 8,000 pounds or 9,000 pounds.
     
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  26. guiseart
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    Muaaahaaaa! Like this?????
     

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