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76' camaro clip,too much negative camber

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 55 dude, May 11, 2007.

  1. 55 dude
    Joined: Jun 19, 2006
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    dudes, just talked too the front end shop and the 76' camaro clip in the 50' chevy truck has -3.1 degrees camber and should be at +1 degree. looks like the springs have been changed to taller ones than stock so truck had right look and tires didn't rub. the truck goes down the road straight with no pulling at all but with the camber like it is the tires will start wearing. would airbags solve this problem? need some feedback from the frontend guru's. thanks :D
     

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  2. bwiencek
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    and I'm ***uming they can't take some shims out of the upper a-arm? Thought about aftermarket uppers? What's the angle of the lower control arms in relation to the ground?

    Was the clip put in right and sure it's not buckling under the weight or load (causing the camber problem)
     
  3. Shifty Shifterton
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    Look for "problem solver" offset upper bushing shafts to help out the camber if you're gonna keep the springs. Airbags won't do anything for you, unless you run them aired down to the stock spring height.

    Those tires look pretty short, stock camaro springs and taller tires might be something to consider.
    good luck!
     
  4. old dirt tracker
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    the lower arms should be level with the ground. seems like a good front end shop should be a to tell whats the problem. even a strong front end can have wreck damage. we used to run a brace bar across the front from upper to upper to prevent colapse of the frame in race cars.
     
  5. flamedabone
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    The real question is WHY does it have 3 degrees of negative camber?

    The lower A arms need to be pretty close to level with the ground as they were in the Camero. If they run "uphill" you need more coilspring then dropped spindles to get your ride height back down.

    If your lower A arms are pretty close to parellel, you need to find out why the hell there isn't enough room to bring teh camber up to spec. In 1976, that Camero was just fine....

    What I bet happened was this...

    The truck was too tall, so some coils were cut off the spring to lower the ride height. That caused the lower A Arms to run uphill, creating your caster problem.

    If this is so, th eeasiest way to fix it is a custom set of upper A arms. Get a set 1/2 or an inch longer and that will give yo plenty of room to shim for caster.

    Don't freak at teh prospect of longer arms. Speedway sells them for your ch***is for 39 bucks each you specify length.

    Good luck, -Abone.
     
  6. 55 dude
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    thanks guys! sounds like speedway might be the answer.
     
  7. publicenemy1925
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    Food for thought. GM cars of that year were prone to sag in the crossmember itself making the camber very high negative. If you have no shims in the upper a frame it could easily be a sagging crossmember. A easy fix for a old school front end shop or frame shop.
     
  8. T Hudson
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    Is that on both sides ( -3.1 ) ?
    If only one side, look at the upper control arm and the spindle.
    If both sides, a frame man can spread the crossmember to get the sag out.
     
  9. 55 dude
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    good question! according to the print out it says the following: camber left -1.5 deg. right -3.1 deg cross camber 1.7 deg. / caster left 1.4 deg,right 1.5 deg. cross camber -0.1 deg. / toe left -0.22 deg, right -0.7 deg. total toe -0.29 deg. / SAI left 9.1 deg. right 11.0 deg. cross SAI -1.9 deg. should have listed these spec's when i posted.
     
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  11. squirrel
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    how many shims are in it now?

    could be the front end was out of a wrecked car....
     
  12. Slag Kustom
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    how are the lower control arm bushings???

    check the front end over before you order any odd ball parts.
     

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