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calling all 235 inline sixes!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by retro54, Apr 8, 2004.

  1. retro54
    Joined: Apr 1, 2004
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    Hey, I got a stock 1954 235 in my chevy, it's a powerglide, so I got the 125 horse version, full pressure...etc. So anyways, I'm eventually gonna be puttin dual exhaust and at least 2 2's on it for starters, so my question for this post is two-fold. Does anybody have good pics of thier hopped-up 235's or any advice as far as what ya can do to these things. Secondly, I run the stock cast-iron powerglide (just rebuilt, so no I'm not changing it after puttin in the money) (incase ya wonderin', I blew out the main input sungear or somehting like that, so it blew out my entire planetary. My ****** guy found a N.O.S planetary after a lot of looking). How much can the cast iron powerglides take when attached to a hopped up 6'er? Thanks for any pics and or info!
     
  2. Spedley
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    I've worked on race cars running 'glides with 700-800 hp, and they seem to hold up ok, mind you they had some work done to them, but I would think a stock 'glide could handle a bit of power, 300hp or more shouldnt be much trouble.
     
  3. retro54
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    would that be cast iron glides or allum. casing? and is there a difference between the two?
     
  4. TheDooWopKid13
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    if you want to really hop it up, you would blow 2 grand a wayne 12 port head. heres the Wayne Mfg. Co web page.
     
  5. 2 grand is a conservative estimate... I got a fact sheet from them, and boy....

    I wish I could hit the Big Game!!!!

    Jay
     
  6. Fat Hack
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    I can't think of six different plants I want to grow...

    (But I got a groovy planter!)

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Viva La Vega, maybe?

     

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  7. bustingear
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    Check the Speedway catalog or website. They have some goodies for the bad *** 6 banger customer!
     
  8. retro54
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    thanks for the help..would love one of the wayne heads..maybe in a bit. Any more info/pics of 235's?
     
  9. Leon
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  10. <font color="purple"> I did the same thing to my cast iron Powerglide! Well....not that bad. It leaked a little, ok...alot...and so I took it in to the local trany shop and they told me it was ****, so I ended up gutting the stuff out of one that was rebuilt 13 years ago, but never used, and with some new clutches n gears, she's as good as new! But this isn't a Powerglide thread, so on to the 235. I have on in my 59 Brookwood, and I was thinkin about puttin some headers on it. I was gonna put up a thread about it when this one caught my eye! So I guess I would also like to know where a good place would be to purchase some probably very rare 235 headers.....not to steal the thread....I'm hoping my question is one of yours too! [​IMG] </font>
     
  11. <font color="purple"> Mom my told me to think before I spoke. In this case, I should have "CLICKED" before I typed. The Clifford Performance link did the trick! Thanks! And sorry to have wasted space! [​IMG] </font>
     
  12. PBRmeASAP
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    In process of putting an Ellis 2X1 and a fenton on mine, hope to fire her tonight, i'll post a pic or so when i get home. Not sure how much improvement perforomance wise it will make but the old timer that sold me the intake said "back in the day" it would beat the V8 for the first block n' a half...hahaha. he also said the powerslide works great with that combo...got one in mine too
     
  13. slimfab
    Joined: Mar 15, 2004
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    if anybody has a inline 6 head, I could hook you up. I did my own version of wayne head....cut the center bosses out, and added lump ports.....it was night and day difference in performance.
     
  14. magnet
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    Hellfish on this board is an inliner freak :) he would direct you to inliners.org http://www.inliners.org where all your inline questions will be answered. Also intakes are listed on ebay regularly...
    Inlines sound great when the manifold is split... ooohhh yyyeeeahhh.

    Those cast powerglides are heavy and not real efficient.. but are dang hard to destroy... i have a couple.. one ready to be rebuilt ... still researching on it though. You will not hurt it with a mostly stock 235.


     
  15. raven
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    1. Go to Patrick's and buy a cam kit.
    2. Find yourself a later model head (848 casting #). Spruce it up with the right changes: multi valve job (4 angle), heavier springs, new rockers and shaft, unshroud the valves.
    3. Get an electronic ignition.
    4. Split exhaust.
    5. 2x1 or 2x2 intake.
    6. Add T-5.
    7. Burn rubber...

    r
     
  16. Hellfish
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    I guess to really answer your question... pictures... go to Inliners.org stoveboltengineco.com etc and look at the customers/readers rides. Also look for a post from Barnett from earlier this week or last week asking for hopped up inline pics. There are some good pics in that post

    now for the underlying question... how to hop it up...
    from all I've learned on Inlinders, you can improve the engine by sinking 1000's into head work, but you will only get a small noticeable improvement. You can get a HUGE noticeable performance increase by making it breath better. So...

    1. get a 2x1, 3x1 or 2x2 intake (a 2x1 will probably be easier to set up). Offy still makes the 2x1 and 3x1 intakes and they sell for around $180, but are cheaper if you buy from HAMBer Vaphead. viva la HAMB.

    2. Split that exhaust! You'll get a cool unique sound that will confuse everyone who expects a v8. Fenton headers run around $2-300 and you will need to tap into the block and plumb water heat to the intake. SOme say it's worth it. An easier solution would be to have the stock exhaust manifold split. Mike Yoder of Kansas Kustoms does it for around $165 (if you're an Inliner member), but Crestliner of the HAMB also does it, does nice work and is a little cheaper. They use different approcahes, but get the same end result. viva la HAMB.

    3. The aluminum Powerglide was used in racing, but you already have a cast iron one, so live with it

    4. an 848 head is the way to go if you don't already have one

    5. you can bore that ****er out quite a bit, but then you're talking about a lot of money and down time for your car

    Joe
     
  17. Stovebolt
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    Hey Slimfab - you got any pics of the job you did on the head?
     
  18. Hellfish...nice info! I've got some fun things planned for my 235, but I don't wanna say much, right now, until I'm sure all the pieces come together. I will say this...THANKS SANDMAN! [​IMG] It should be a really cool, fun motor very shortly. [​IMG]
     
  19. Hellfish
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    I forgot, Raven is right. Get a cam.

    If you're lucky, y ou might find a 261 and you can bore and stroke it to 290 like i'm doing with my 48

    [​IMG]
     
  20. retro54
    Joined: Apr 1, 2004
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    thank ya much Hellfish. your advice is very helpful...just been trying to compile info so that when I am ready, I can go into the improvements with gusto. thanks again to all, nothing can beat all this experience on HAMB!
     
  21. 49styleline
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    just wondering (if you know) how much more horse power did those modifications give you? because im going to do something similar to mine.
     
  22. deadendcruiser
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    I don't think subscribing to an 8 year old thread is going to help.
     

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