Im toying with using either midnight green pearl, or rally green mettalic. This will be going on my 41 plymouth coupe. Im a long ways off from paint but id like to have a idea of what these two look like on something. Its very hard to tell on a there site what the colors really look like . Thanks Bryan Midnight green pearl: Rally green metallic:
Most photos will not properly show how these colors look. Do a search on this site for product-plenty of info listed, and even at least one green car. Try to get someone to photoshop it for you.
I just did last week, the vintage burgundy and it ****ed. The color was off (to the light side) by about 10 shades and it just looked like ****. I thought I'd done something wrong so I let it sit for 3 days, scuffed it and re-shot. Same results-very frustrating. I've decided to go with Hot Hues hot rod black, easy to shoot and good results.
a friend of mine painted his 40 fod with hotrod flatz black, and he hated it...he said it wasnt easy going on, and after it was "dry" it smeared when you touched it...i dunno, he hated it and im glad he did, because then he painted it gloss black, and it just looks so much better...i cant see wastin a good 40 ford with that ****.
I have heard the same, it is hard to lay down right. I don't know why all the hype about flat paint. As I was told it, the cars in So Cal back in the day were left in primer, not as a hot rod statement but just because they were built by young guys with no money. The old timer I spoke with in So Cal said if they had the money to buy paint (even flat) they would have shot a nice paint job. They never had their cars "finished" so they were raret ready for that final coat of paint. I was told that "suede" started when guys started to wax their primer to keep it from chaulking and they learned that it looked cool. I dunno but the old school guys that lived it back in the day were laughing about all the flat paint jobs they were seeing down there. (guys spending thousands on "paint" jobs just to make it look old) But, that was not the spirit of what they were doing or the reason for it. Interested to hear what you guys think? I always found it odd that guys would make "period correct" cars and then shoot them in flat paint. Kind of an Oxy*****?
Well im a young guy with not alot of money and this will be my work in progress color. gloss black is what im shooting for in the end but i want it to look decent as i do mroe work on it. And the hot rod flatz is preety cheap. But i to have heard some bad things about.
To those that don't know any better todays trendy has been p***ed off as traditional. If they really wanted to be traditional there'd be no electronic ignitions, no automatic transmissions, no alternators, and no anti-freeze/coolant to name a few...those things just weren't used. And guess what. A rusty old body with a rusty frame using a lawn chair for a seat wasn't considered cool, it was considered a piece of junk...as it should be. As I recall the more coats of laquer your car had the cooler it was. And from California the ones who had the money would take their cars to Mexico to have them upholstered...usually tuck and roll or ****on and tuck. The ones that didn't have the money wished they did but didn't call the others cl*** envy derogatory names like "goldchainers".
He asked if anyone used the paint and in those 2 specific colors. Why dont you two newbs put your ******s away. Nobody asked your opinion about traditional, and...nobody cares.
And if you are really interested, start a thread about it...not hijack someone elses. I know you have been a member here for about 20 minutes, but try using the "search". That should get you front row to all the nonsense traditional/non traditional debates here and keep you busy reading till 2009. Then, you will know what everyone thinks.
a guy i know just had a valiant sprayed in the "flat black" the guy is supposed to be some kind of good painter, i think the car looks like ****, looks liek it was done in spray cans, you can see a dry edge on every stroke. i dont know the painter and havent seen any of his work, so i guess it could be his fault or the paint, i dont know. the car owner is planning on wetsanding it.
I've heard the same ****ty stories...****py product, get what you pay for. We are useing a pretty cheap primer that works great, Omni mp 181. Goes on nice, blends well, sands nicely, and stands up to the elements so far. I dig its color too... its like a black/grey/blue. I like it since its not flat black like everyone is useing. Good luck!
The gold mettalic flatz that I used on mine was not so good....if you do a search, you will see a thread of mine explaining my dislikes... Seems the flat colors come out ok, but the mettalics are way off. Maybe you will have better luck with the green.
Bryan, Doesn't your paint store have a table if mis-tints on it? There's got to be a new-er med. green base coat on there once in a while. PM Clark, he'll tell ya what to buy
It's not cheap but I just shot a motorcycle with the new PlanetColor (sherwin williams/martin senior) and it was not only extremely cool but one of the easiest paints ever to shoot. This was a metallic/pearl, groundcoat/midcoat/clearcoat setup that shot just like basecoat/clearcoat. It's got HUGE b***boat flake in it but it's in the ground and midcoats and not the clear. All I had to do was to take the filters out of the gun and obviously not strain the paint. I was super impressed. Even an amateur painter like me can get great results with it. I'm thinking that the paint might be too pricey for ya but still probably less than house of kolor and much easier to use. You might just wanna wait till you have a little more bank to spend and go all out on a paint job.
i saw that whole night mare as it unfolded. Kind of made me nervous. thats why i wanted to see if any one has sprayed it. Ford has a nice basecoat/clearcoat green metallic that i might just use. and just skip the clear coat. I just dont want flat black for the few months i wil get to cruise it before it gets the real body work done on it.
Try it old school- black primer, wet sand and wax. The good thing is that if it chaulks up you can do a light wet sand and your good. It will be cheap too. Post pics and let us know how you did. Also, if you search "flatz" you'll come up with a ton of info, none of it very good.
I did mine in the daytona blue pearl,had a buddy of mine shoot it who paints for a dealership here in town.It didn't turn out like I was thinking.It almost looks like it has overspray on it,real chalky lookin.I know it wasn't the painter,he always does an awesome job on everything he has always done for me.He did the top gloss pearl white,now I'm wishing I would have had him shoot the entire car white,after the blue turned out the way it did.I'm still trying to figure out what I'm going to do with the blue,just doesn't look right to me.After lookin at the paint chip I had a totally different pictue in my head,it also looked pretty sweet in the mixing cup,but after it was on, turned out more purple than blue.Maybe I'm just to picky but I'd try a different route.you can see picks of mine if you look up, flatz daytona blue pearl
if you also want a flat look go to your paint store and ask for the color you want in vinyl paint also my cousin spayed his buick in the seafoam green it looks pretty good
thought I read on here that if you remove the label off the flatz paint it is labeled something else. Basically they are buying and repackaging and marking it up if that is the case. I was going to talk about sinner13's car and how I thought the flatz look pretty good. that is until I saw what he did after he re-painted it. now it is kick ***! I am not sure what paint he used the second time around though.
Thanks Lotus, I ended up using a ppg base. I was ok with the way the flatz layed out, but it was so far off the color I was hoping for, I had to get rid of it.
Its Omni AU with their label stuck over it. Here in lies the problem with flattening agents. The more flattening agent you add, the more unstable the mixute. The reason its mixed at such a high rate to the hardener is because hardener cancels out the flattening agent. If your dead set on a flat color for a finished product. I suggest you choose whatever basecoat you want, then get some PPG 2060 Flexed and Flat clear. You can either shoot it straight as a 6-1-1 mixture, or first mix it with other PPG clears, then reduce to get different gloss levels such as semi-gloss and eggshell. Its pricey tho, 2 qts and hardener will put you somewhere near $200. But, I just shot a 50 Chevy (minus the top which I flaked) with two wet coats and had about 1/4 qt left.
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