Anyone have some pics to share? i'm looking for some ideas, . I was considering a yellow on the bottom and black on top maybe? Thanks for any input.
OK here's my .02 If your going to go throught the trouble of two toning it, that means your actually going to put effort into it. So why not put the effort into making the paint job real. Single stage or BC/CC. If you want it flat dull the clear with some flattening agent. To two tone a car in primer instead of real paint is a waste of time and materials as far as I'm concerned. This whole primer rage is the worst thing to happen to custom cars and hotrods since the 80's happened to hotrods and customs.
It's his car. If he wants two tone primer, that's his choice. Although, black n yellow is gonna look like a giant bee. You might want to think of a dark and light mixture of the same color.
Black and yellow was a factory paint option, my wife made the same bee comment too. I'm not stuck on that color choice. Thats why I asked for input . I'm not going to argue with anyones advice especially when i'm asking the questions. I had the Flatz paint in mind but noted above with all the work may just spray a single stage.
Thats why I prefaced my comment with "This is my .02" Hotrod Flatz is different. I'm still not super fond of it as a finished paint job, but it has qualities of a conventional topcoat. Be a little more specific next time. Some of these people use primer as a flat color, which it is, but its meant for other purposes contrary to a topcoat.
Heres the 56' that I recently bought from hotrodnailhead...I like the two-tone blue and white primer job.
I ran the same two tone primer scheme from 1989 until I sold the car just recently in 2007. Brown - White Green - White Light Gray - White Dark Gray - White And SlowandLow63 I really don't Fuckin care what you two cents is. Do you have anything constructive to say??
Yellow (light) and black look bad ass... look at a stock 1955 caddy! That is a sweet combo. Light yellow does not look like a bee.
please tell me you are going to take all the trim off before you do this or are you just going to tepe trimm of and spray the car two tone with primer??????
2-tone primer jobs. this car came to mind, I don't know who's car it is, I saw it on the Jalopy Journal. Dan
I with HotRodHon on his comment. I think a lite and dark of the same color would look very nice. Maybe even a pale yellow like you mentioned. I'm getting ready to spray a buddy of mine truck two tone. It will be a light and dark metallic brown. I would also agree with the negative guy that primer is not a good idea. Like he said, it isn't designed as a top coat and is not very durable...
Here's kinda what I had in mind colorwise . Yes, the trim is all off the car. I've seen this yellow in vera-prime? I think it was called.
If it's going to be kustom don't do a primer paint job. Kustoms are about class and lines of the car flowing. Now if you just want to impress the primer boys you need an old rat rod or hot rod and primer that. The only time kustoms were in primer was when the guy ran out of money but eventually it got painted properly. Good luck and take care, Rags
If you were refering to me thank you, I'm positively certain I've had enough of the "primer" scene. Finally, someone from California who agrees with me. See, I'm not crazy. No why is that so hard to understand? Perfectly put.
You seem to be having two separate arguments here. One is that you seem to be offended by the look of flat paint on finished cars, which you refer to as the "primer scene" The second is that colored primer is not as durable as a base-coat with hardener in it, or a Flatz. (which is the same thing) I fully agree with you that primer will allow water to go through and you'll end up taking the whole car down to bare metal again anyway. Base-coat, hardener in, without the clear-coat is a perfectly safe alternative. You get the durability of a bc/cc with the flat look. If you are trying to tell him not to be part of the "primer scene" I will repeat myself and remind you it's his car. He can build it any way he wants. My 37 has been this way for several years and I have no interest in making it shiny. Craig
I'm not offended by anything, like you said his car, he has to drive it not me. I personally don't like the look of primered cars being considered done cars. Certain cars done in a flat finish are gorgeous, like yours. That looks real good, its tasteful. Hot Rod Flatz is a whole nother story compared to primer, in both arguments. Not only is it a single stage topcoat and will hold up to the elements, when do right, it looks great too. Like Rags said though, 50s customs are supposed to be elegant and flowing. A flat finish kind of takes away from that idea in my opinion, but on your 37, it fits the car perfectly.
You guys are making some pretty good points, I didn't take in account about actually sealing the metal on the car. If anything it would be temporary until I could get a better paint job. And with the price of the flatz I could probably get some single stage instead. This is my first rodeo doing body work and paint, so I'm still a little undecided about what to do. The persistance of SlowandLow63 and others has me thinking otherwise it may not be the best for my car. I'm not trying just to be part of the "primer crowd" I just want a uniform look after my bodywork to drive the car .
You're a little mixed up, Hot Rod Flatz as you speak of is single stage. As long as you treat it like a normal paint job, you'll be all set as far as protecting the metal. I don't mean to come off like a dick about the whole flat finish thing, if thats your cake, eat it. So to sum up, topcoating with a primer is a no-go; hotrod flatz, single stage anything, good shape; and the rest is up to you.
hotrodhon- your '37 is baaaaaaad ass! (although I don't like the hubcaps at all, but other than that it is perfect) On the subject of primer.... I was told that DP-90 will SEAL the metal. True? (this was from a custom painter up here in soggy WA)
I shot my 53 in base-coat and flattened the clear. No, not because I'm into the "primer" scene. But because I keep changing my ideas on body mods and can't decide on a final color. I highly recommend going with base and flat clear. It is more $$$$, but it holds up alot better than primer. Plus all that time in body work is less likely to rust away.