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roof paint whitewalls experiment

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by petebert, Jun 15, 2007.

  1. petebert
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    So I decided to try the roof paint on a bad tire that I have. The paint looks promising but so far my painting dosnt. I can spray pretty good but havent done much brush/roller painting. So far I'm getting ugly lines from the brush, maybe I should try it with a roller?

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  2. aquaelvis
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    Dude, are you wearing pink shoes?
     
  3. Gotgas
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    !! :D !!
     
  4. joeybsyc
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    Velcro no less..
     
  5. brewsir
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    you gonna put that on a car and drive it so we can see some real results? Maybe you can smooth it a little with a foam brush.
     
  6. ol'skool29
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    yeah, i second the foam brush, might turn out better. looks like a good start.
     
  7. BigBlockMopar
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    Did you first clean the tire very thoroughly?
    If not, I would guess it will come off or form bubbles in less than a week's driving.
    Perhaps I would thin the coating and apply a couple of layers instead of just one.
     
  8. petebert
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    compare the size of the leg in the pink shoes compared to the hose, firemans hose?

    I tried a foam brush, it just seemed to smear it around, maybe it will work better with a base coat on there.

    The tire was cleaned, I actually grinded all the lettering off with 120 grit on an angle grinder and roughed up rest of the surface too. I then hosed it down and after it dried I cleaned if off with paint thinner.

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  9. petebert
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  10. gulfwarsubvet
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    Do all the above prep, then shoot it with a few coats of Krylon Fusion White. earch Krylon Fusion and you'll come up with all the threads.
     
  11. brewsir
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    fusion seems to yellow after awhile....so what;s the harm in trying something new?
     
  12. petebert
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    ya i found the roof paint thing in a kryoln fusion post but no one had results so I thought I'd try it. When I get this done I'll let it sit in my back yard for a while and see how it holds up. If I can get it smooth I might just pick up a set of 4 used and mount them in the next month, I'm wondering how well the paint will hold while going through the bending of being mounted. Suppose I could unmount this one and find out.
     
  13. Jimv
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    i tried the krylon paint & it looked bad right away( flaked & cracked), Also started a "war" on here about it!!lol.
    Yours looks pretty good, but try one of those small , narrow rollers(Trim roller) & give it 2 coats.Let it dry good & see what happens.
    One odd thing, when i used the krylon it looked like **** right away, but you can't believe the hard time i had taking the stuff off the tire that was left on!! I tried sanding, paint remover, steel wool!! I finally got tire black & went over it!!
    JimV
     
  14. petebert
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    I'll check out the hardware store today and see what they have. Ruining the tire isnt a problem, I've got this one and another junk tire I can just throw away after I trash them.
     
  15. I'm not sure that will work, when I was fifteen we did that to a buddies car and first water we went through it started to flake off. That was the first time I heard the term "flaky" if you know what I mean. Rags
     
  16. Jimv
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    I forgot to mention that i ended up "grinding" WW's came out very good.
    Heres a pic.
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  17. aquaelvis
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    Looks nice, what kind of tires are those? I am still wondering what the best tire to grind is? (price vs. width)
     
  18. hobbyjp
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    Post a pick once you get a second coat on it. Once it's dry you might be able to wet sand or buff it smooth, even though it will probably gunk up some sand paper. I have painted alot of roofs in south florida with this stuff and it sticks to almost anything. How much is that paint going for these days?
     
  19. LUCIFR
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    you can by some flowout reducer from any hardware store!! you mix it in to prevent brushlines when painting interior trim and ****??
    I am sure it would work on tires to??
     
  20. petebert
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    its around $16 a gallon at lowes, I wonder if its the stuff the guy is selling on ebay for $50. The ebay stuff comes in a can with no label.
     
  21. gulfwarsubvet
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    Excellent......Keep us posted on how the stuff holds up.
     
  22. gulfwarsubvet
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    The ground ones on my 62 look like your front tires. I've been looking for a good method to fill in the black gap between the white stripe and the wheel. If this roof paint holds up it might be the ticket.
    So I guess the Fusion is out? Haven't seen any long term results on how that stuff holds up.
    Any input?
     
  23. Spooky
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    Wow....This is a post that we discussed about 10 years ago here.
    Really.
    I skuffed the hell out of my sidewalls and laid down the Sno-Cote roofing product and let it sit in the sun and all for about a week.

    Looked good at first, but then the tires started to flex and all that a tire does and the failure began.

    After a few rain storms and finally when the late Summer, then Fall followed by Winter caused the product to fail and peel like a fat white guy after a day at the beach.

    So, I will be watching this with a keen eye peeled hoping for the best, man.

    Included is a shot of my slEdsel with the aforementioned painted sidewalls-
     

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  24. Jimv
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    I hear ya, i was thinkin the same thing.Only thing is, if it doesn't hold up or yellows it'll look bad, better off just liviing with the ground whites.
    jimV
     
  25. kool1
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    I was told that the white walls on the batfink were done with Krylon and that the last time they were done was when Brewsir had it. there still covered but have yellowed up some. tried to recoat but new paint is comming off. Met at guy at Indy says that he uses a primer call Kiltz supose to stick to anything and no bleed through. her even adds tint to make red lines and gold line tires. I going to try this stuff and I'll let you know what comes out. Lowes and Home depot are supose to carry it.
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  26. petebert
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    I'm thinking the paint is Killz, its supposed to be pretty thick stuff. This stuff is pretty thick, I tried sanding out some of the lines today to put more coats on got down to a 220 grit on a palm sander and it didnt do too much.

    Looks like the foam brush is the way to go but from the beginning and not start with a regular brush. I tried the roller but it gives a textured look. I'm going to put down another foam brush coat when this one drys and then see if it will buff at all. Then throw the tire in the backyard and see how it does.
     
  27. gulfwarsubvet
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    That's what I'm thinking. I'll probably just leave em alone. I don't want to chance two-tone ( yellow and white ) sidewalls.
    Probably just run em till they wear out and buy a set of the Cokers on the next go round.
     
  28. Spooky
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    Nah, Kilz is pretty damned thin, brutha....
     
  29. petebert
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    not quite ready to call it a bust yet but it looks like I need to start from scratch again, when I sanded it added a brown tint which has been pretty damn hard to get rid of. I havent been painting the entire tire just about a 3rd of it, got a good 10 coats on top and the brown still shows through. Dont know if it needs more then a 24 hour cure period but after 24 hours dirt will smear into this paint and is a pain to remove, had some here and there and when I sanded it made a mess.

    So when I get around to it I'll try a section on a different tire, wont even bother masking or anything and just paint a section of the tire. I will sand the tire down first though again. This paint just peels right off an unprepped surface, see the paint I dripped all over the wheel? that comes right off.

    On the other hand, I tried grinding the WW for the first time last night, pretty damn easy. And I have an idea, I'm thinking since on a RWL tire the letters go so much higher then a standard WW that the hidden white should also go this much higher, thoughts?

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  30. petebert
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    havent bothered to take pictures but this paint is turning brown on me everywhere that its in contact with rubber, the places where I slopped it onto the metal wheel are still bright white, maybe a primer coat would fix this?

    I saw people have tried the krylon fusion, my local kmart has krylon epoxy enamel in white, any thoughts on that?
     

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