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Wide 5 or not to Wide 5?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Zoo York, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. Zoo York
    Joined: May 31, 2006
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    I really want to use a wide 5 setup on the es*** but I don't like the idea of using disk brakes. Were wide 5's ever made with a drum brake setup. Does anyone have a wide 5 setup you can post pictures of.There are a few posts on here but not what I was looking for..Thanks Zoo
     
  2. chuckspeed
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    Huh?

    Wide 5's are a late 30's Ford bolt pattern for DRUMS...
     
  3. t-town-track-t
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    I'm confused as well.. I'd like to see a pic of wide 5s with disk set up. I did not know one existed!
     
  4. Zoo York
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    Sorry...I forgot early fords had wide 5's but here is a picture of what I want to use..
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  5. Bruce Lancaster
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    Different eras intersecting, here...interesting!
     
  6. hotrawd
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    Back in the 60's we used wide 5 hubs like the one pictured with aluminum drums that looked like Buick drums on late model stock cars. I sold the last ones I had about a year ago but I'm sure there are some still out there.
     
  7. chaddilac
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  8. chuckspeed
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    Umm...

    If you want to use wide fives and drums, then you're not gonna use that piece - you're gonna use '38 Ford bits.
     
  9. t-town-track-t
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    what chuck said. Just run stock 38-39 ford pieces. Wide fives with drums. Nothing fancy or after market. Just stuff that works.
     
  10. john56h
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    If he has a "floater" axle, he'll need to run the Safety Hub style wide-fives. Maybe he has an old Frankland quickchange or something. The wide-five Safety Hubs can be run on the front too, but a 3/4 ton spindle must be installed over the original Ford spindle.

    Frankland and Safety-Racing made many drum style aluminum wide-five Safety Hubs over the years. Also, many racers used the Buick drums and modified them to fit the Safety Hubs.

    A few other manufacturers would have been Coleman, Howe, Jones, JFZ and Wilwood.


    This is a Safety-Racing wide-five aluminum hub

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  11. Zoo York
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    Yeah I have a Bert quick change rear that I got for cheap and I just wanted to be able to use it. Thanks for the picture john.. It'll help me with my search...
     
  12. Pacecar
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    Just bought a Frankland QC with Frankland wide-5 drums on the back, plus a pair for the front mounted on some kind of stock car stub axle. Jamie Frankland (son of founder Jim Frankland) runs a welding shop in FL and was very helpful and generous with info. They are based on 1962-on Buick (front only) Al-Fin aluminum brake drums with an added-on hub. Mine have fabricated steel "spider" brakes on the front (no backing plates) and cast aluminum spiders on the back (non-cracked ones are rare). I bought two new brake shoes at Napa for 1962 Buick front and they fit fine with a little work. Looking forward to using them on the '27 track roadster (with GMC six) in the shop. BTW, the build date is in the serial number stamped on the bottom of the QC and inside the drums on the hubs. First letter is month (a=Jan, etc.) folowed by year (71=1971) followed by number built to that point that year. Also, Diamond Wheels will make steel or aluminum wide-5 wheels in any width. I ordered two 5" X 15" steel for $75 ea. Need photos? I will shoot and try to post.
     
  13. john56h
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    Many 60's stock cars used the wide-five safety hubs on the front with early Ford p***enger car spindles, but with 3/4 ton 4-bolt spindles installed over the "pin" so that the same hubs could be used front and rear.
     

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