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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by easyrider47, Jul 5, 2007.

  1. easyrider47
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    I have a Model A roadster that I recently put patch panels in, and primered them. Also the drivers door is primered and the hood. The rest of the car has the roriginal paint on it and I would like to make itall look closeand I was wondering if anyone could look at the pictures and give me some ideas. The paint is craked and looks like alligator skin is some places and scratched to the metal in others. Any suggestions???
     

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  2. squirrel
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    a bit late now.....
     
  3. neverlift666
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    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's a cabrolet, not a roadster? And don't trip too hard on it, just make it solid and drive the piss out of it. I know how much y'all hate the "p-word", but replicated patina's pretty lame. Do whatever you want, but I'd just paint it and drive it. Or just ****ing drive it.
     
  4. beetlejuice55
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    i don't care for that replicated patina either.
    and, why all of the sudden is it called patina ?
    back in the day it was plain old rust, or worn paint..now all of the sudden they throw in a big fancy word like patina.
    the first time i ever heard the word patina, was on the antiques road show t.v. program, when they were talking about some old peice of furniture. i really hate that word, and the fact that alot of guys are faking it.
     
  5. klazurfer
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  6. Phil Stevens
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    it's a roadster for sure
     
  7. jetmek
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    strip it and and finish it right. dont take the lazy way out to try and follow some trend
     
  8. Doodlrodz
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    Wow, did the poor guy ask for Help, or a bunch of "Lame" opinions ?
     
  9. Replicated patina is p***e you need to move on and paint it or primer don't leave it looking like junk that is a neat car. Rags
     
  10. 47bob
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    Easy, Just sand the patches smooth and let it rust then you haven't faked anything; just added to its character. .....Bob
     
  11. metalman
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    I just matched the weathered "patina" on a 39 Ford where I had to weld & bodywork the front fenders to put 39 lights back in where someone had frenched some lame looking VW style sealed beams. Was one of the toughest paint jobs I ever did but we didn't want primer spots nor lose the rest of the car's finish, at least for now. I think if I was doing your roadster I'd paint it proper though, you whould have too much fake paint to call it original paint.
     

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  12. Mudslinger
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    Put red oxide primer on the patched areas and forget about it.
     
  13. easyrider47
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    Thanx for the replies...and the criticisms. It's definitely a roadster..no windows! ( I wish) And I am definitely gonna drive the hell out of it, paint or no paint. I just thought I'd leave it and restore it sometime down the line..like when I retire. As for "fake patina", or faded, rusty, and scratched paint, sorry if it's not your cup o tea, I don't care if you like it or not, I just akded how to do it. And thanks for the link Klaz, I think you actually got what I wa asking.
     
  14. Section 8
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    Ignore all the old bitties that think you should express your individuality by building your car their way, rather than building it to your liking.


    You might try (cover your eyes, neo-traditionalists): latex house paint.

    It's naturally a flat finish, is very easy to get the right color, will let rust bleed through, you can use some of the "faux finish" glaze to make it check and/or alligator, is really cheap, will fade pretty quickly and can be applied in a variety of ways and is easy to tint as you go.
     
  15. SUHRsc
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    i think the best bet is to look where its scratched....disect the layers and then find paint that most closely replicates each of the layers...then

    layer it on!
    once its all on and you have a top coat close to the color of your "old" paint...then just do what you see fit to match the patterns of wear on the rest of the car....

    brake cleaner might work to "rub through" the paint faster...spray some on a piece of steel wool and try that if you wanted it "rubbed through" in some places

    good luck
    Zach
     
  16. The Neophyte
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    Judas Priest! Can't anybody just help the brother out. He just wants to match whats already there. I think yer roadster looks great!

    The Aug 07 Street Rodder has an article on it and a short how too. Not much but its something. If you cant find it on the shelves I'll send you my copy. Just shoot me a p.m.

    Colin
     
  17. budd
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    theres an art type paint out that is that shade of green, supose to look like greened copper, but my advice would be to paint the patches with green flat rust paint and dont wash the car. use a brush to paint it.
     
  18. I wonder how many pages it will go THIS time...
     
  19. fiat128
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    Glad you've got the sense build it the way you like it and not whatever the flavor of the month is. I like old cars to look used to so I leave little dents and scratches alone.

    This may sound corny but I'll get some model train magazines and see how they patina the models. Seems to me I remember stuff about mixing thinner and a little dark paint to create a "wash" for a worn look from reading these as a kid. You can experiment around and if doesn't work, sand it off and try something else.

    For wood and leather there is a product called "Briwax" that all the antique dealers use to fake age (I was one and you can fake 300 years of mugre with this stuff. All the high end English country pine you see in the fancy shops is Briwaxed). Looks great and can probably be used on metal too.
     
  20. 39 Ford
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    Take a sample of the paint to Loews or Home Depot have them match it in exterior laytex and brush it on over everything both old and new .
     
  21. id smooth the body and repaint it the way that colour was when it was good. pretty much the same as what 39 ford is saying. im just not a fan of the old rotted look which is why id just repaint it so its clean again
     
  22. easyrider47
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    Thanx Guys for all the hints. And I think that I may try to match the color to an old house paint and try brushing some on and see what happens. The brake fluid on a rag to rub thru sounds like a good idea too, and I think first I will primer over the grey with red oxide, as it will more closely resemble rust when rubbed down to that layer. The day will come when I take it down to the frame and go all through it, but for now, I just think I'll enjoy it...MY WAY
     

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