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New GM crate engine: Where do these go?!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Brad54, Jul 22, 2007.

  1. Brad54
    Joined: Apr 15, 2004
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    Brad54
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    from Atl Ga

    I just got a new GM crate engine, and they're don't really include ANY info with it. I figured they'd at least include their recommendations for break in procedures, etc.
    In the same little bag that had two tin timing tabs, there are two small steel dowels, of different sizes.
    Where do these go?

    -Brad
     
  2. luckys8ba
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    I think you might be talking about the fuel pump push rods
     
  3. hdwilly
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    block off for dipstick
     
  4. hdwilly
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    hdwilly
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    gm crate motors have hole for driver side or p***enger side dipsticks. plug for one you aint using
     
  5. hdwilly
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    timing tabs are for different size harmonic balancer
     
  6. Shifty Shifterton
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    Dowel(s) may be for the crankshaft flange. Or if they're thumb size then transmission dowels.
     
  7. squirrel
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    dowels should be for the dipstick tube hole you don't use, if you go with ram horns you should probably use the "old" driver side style tube like the 283 used, block off the p*** side.
     
  8. yes , they ARE for blocking off what ever side you do not install the dipstick


    two timing tabs are provided..one for 6-3/4" and one for 8". you have to provide the harmonic balancer

    you also do not get the fuel pump push rod...try Napa # BK6101181

    or an oil filter spin on adapter...GM # 3952301 or Pioneer # 839049
     
  9. jaco
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    Just installed one of these engines this weekend. It took me a while the figure out where these plugs went. They are for the dipstick hole you don't use.
     
  10. Brad54
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    Thanks guys.
    Went with the smaller balancer--it's lighter...can't see spinning that extra weight, and the application was for either/or. I mean, it was few pounds lighter!
    Spent a good bit of last week shopping for all the parts and gaskets I need...oil fill tube/cap, PCV, old-style fuel filter, fuel pump, chrome 327 valve covers, HEI cap and rotor (taking the diz off the 283 that's in it), new plug wires, etc. etc. etc. Only thing I don't have yet is the dipstick tube and some misc. plugs for the intake manifold. I'm going to run the Speedway ram's horn exhaust manifolds. They stick out away from the block farther than GM manifolds, so I'm not positive which side will be better. I'd like to put it on the p***enger side, so it doesn't get into the master cylinder area.

    Thanks again guys.

    -Brad
     
  11. Lobucrod
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    Make sure you use the correct harmonic balancer for the timing tabs. I am ***uming you didnt get one on the crate engine or it would have the correct timing tab installed already.
     
  12. squirrel
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    I though you were trying to make this crate motor look "old"? driver side dipstick is the only way to go....
     
  13. Brad54
    Joined: Apr 15, 2004
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    Brad54
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    Yeah, the plan was to make it look old...still is, to a point I guess.
    After all the hoopla about painting it orange, it's now black. Even though I have $25 worth of POR15 Chevy Orange on the way.
    Still has the C3B intake (clearanced for the HEI), and the new Ram's horn manifolds. Closed PCV system, with a black fill tube and chrome screw-on cap. Everything is black except the chrome 327 valve covers, oil fill cap, air cleaner lid, water pump pulley, and aluminum intake & thermostat housing. The L79 327 had a chrome dip stick tube...I'll probably go with whatever fits/I can find.

    Still don't like the idea of fishing the dip stick tube through brake lines, especially with a power booster and 2-chamber master on a bracket sticking off the firewall.

    -Brad

    Oh, there were three reasons for sticking with black engine: as you said, black engines "don't leak," someone else said the black really makes any chrome pop (and I'm using a very, very little bit of chrome), and, most important of all, Boy Wonder pulled his executive veto card and said "Black." It'll look good in a black engine bay.
     

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