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Researching old speed shops

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Aman, Jul 27, 2007.

  1. Aman
    Joined: Dec 28, 2005
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    Aman
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    from Texas

    I'm trying to research the history of racing in South Texas and was wondering if anyone here has ever done anything like this. The information is hard to come by and all the old timers are either dead or have moved away, so it seems. I'm specifically looking for old speed shops that have come and gone but so far I'm not having much luck. I came to this area over thirty years ago and can remember one or two shops but I'm looking for shops that existed back in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, and so forth. Does anyone have any suggestions were to find information on these old shops. I've contacted a local historian and asked him the same question but his response was "what's a speed shop?" I don't expect much help there. Anyone?
     
  2. Bruce Lancaster
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    Starting point...some of the 1950's small books on rodding have state-by-state speed shop directories in the back...I know I have those for several years, though that does not mean I can find them!
    I know the ones put out by Popular Mechanics had this, and think there were others as well, and perhaps the earliest couple of HRM books.
    Historical archaeology!
    A couple of years ago, I went to San Diego, and tried to find "Dago" Stewarts axle dropping shop...got within a few yards of where it musta was, lost the trail in a tangle of widened intersection and parking lots...
     
  3. T-Time
    Joined: Jan 5, 2007
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    I can't really offer any help, but I did want to thank you for inspiring me to do a little historical archeology of my own.

    There's an old building here (Birmingham, Alabama) with cool old faded signage on it that says "A.C.E. Speed Warehouse". I've always wondered about the shop's history. After seeing your post, I decided to do a web search, thinking maybe somebody has mentioned it in some online ramblings.

    Not only did I find a cool photo of part of the signage (scroll down to the "old logo" link here: http://www.kennysmith.org/blog/2005_10_01_blog_archive.html), but I also found that it is still in business! Its now in a part of town that I never visit...but I will now! It's odd that I've never heard anybody in the Birmingham area mention this speed shop, though. :confused: Its not like there's alot of speed shops here...basically just two, Rocco and Cheaters and SECO.
     
  4. triton6972
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    What about the old Speed and Sport in downtown San Antonio? Dont know when it first opened, but it was around for awhile.
     
  5. Larry T
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    I don't know of any in south Texas, but you might try calling Wayne Calvert at Calvert Precision Engines in Denton. I haven't talked to him in several years. I think he's "retired" and his son runs the business now, but if he's in good health, he's probably at the shop.
    Another old Texas Speed Shop owner would be Carl Stone in Dallas.
     
  6. squirrel
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    try to find old phone books....
     
  7. pasadenahotrod
    Joined: Feb 13, 2007
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    from Texas

    My 1951 Hot Rod Handbook lists:

    Wade Bedell Jr
    246 St Francis St(1954 listed at 637 S. Presa)
    San Antonio TX

    H.C. Brown
    819 Wilkes St
    Houston TX

    Ellis Speed SHop
    601 Austin St
    San ANtonio TX

    Johnie Johnson
    2301 Seventeenth St
    Lubbock TX

    L & S Speed SHop
    605 Henley St
    Houston TX

    Ralph's Hollywood Muffler Shop
    2220 Jacksboro Hwy
    Fort Worth TX

    Sappenfield Auto SUpply
    115 S. Union St
    WHitesboro TX

    Tip's SPeed Shop
    1318 W. Hollywood
    San Antonio TX

    As Speed Parts Distributors in Texas. Have fun, take pictures of the old buildings if they still exist and let us see 'em. Remeber to check the businesses on either side of an address if they're old timers and see if you can get any other information. You just never know!!
     
  8. tommy
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    If you have any racing museums in your area, you might try their archives for programs or newsletters from that era. Speed shops often put their advertising where it would reach their desired customers.

    I love searching the "paper vendors" for old speed shop catalogs from the by gone days. Some times the catalogs were printed by the manufacturer with nothing more than a rubber stamped phone #, name and address identifying the local speed shop that carried their wares.

    I vividly recall the articles that Bruce mentioned. It was cool to me as a pimply teenager to see a local speed shop that I was familiar with appear in a national magazine.
     
  9. pasadenahotrod
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    from Texas

    1954 Hot Rod Handbook from Popular MEchanics:

    Babb's Hot Rod SHop
    1227 Walnut St
    Amarillo TX

    Custom Car SUpply
    1506 E. 10th ST
    Amarillo TX

    Frank Taylor
    207 N. Virginia St
    Amarillo TX

    Gray's Auto Repair
    1523 E. 7th St
    Amarillo TX

    Allen Bros. Garage
    1800 W. Third ST
    Big SPring TX

    Speed & Power Equipment
    809 W. Third ST
    Big Spring TX

    Trevino Garage
    1218 Madison St
    Brownsville TX

    Chandler Auto Supply
    308 N. Fisk
    Brownwood TX

    C.C. Speedway
    3901 Agnes St
    Corpus Christi TX

    Grant Motor Parts
    3003 Agnes ST
    Corpus Christi TX
    Stoneking Service
    602 Channing ST
    Dalhart TX

    Bert D. Hallett
    6523 Latta St
    Dallas TX

    Californis Muffler Co
    1410 Zangs Blvd
    Dallas TX

    Custom Automotive
    2122 N. Pearl St
    Dallas TX

    Pleasnt Mound Garage
    3118 SOuth Buckner St
    Dallas TX

    Ellis Auto Service
    311 W. Oak St
    Denton TX

    House of Chrome
    2500 Texas Ave
    El Paso TX

    Joe FUlton
    Ferris TX

    Bryant's Speed Shop
    922 W. Harrison St
    Harlingen TX

    Earl Hay Auto Service
    4715 Allen St
    Houston TX

    Phillips Gargae
    8312 Park Place Blvd
    Houston TX

    Tom's SUpply House
    1901 Washington Ave
    Houston TX

    Kermit Motor Co
    Kermit TX

    Fillip's Speed Shop(still in business)
    1810 Volney
    San ANgelo TX

    George Vinas
    552 Leigh St
    San ANtonio TX

    Hi-Way Automotive Parts
    2108 W. Erwin St
    Tyler TX

    Langford Racing & Muffler CO
    2200 Harrison ST
    Wichita Falls, TX
     
  10. Bruce Lancaster
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    Phone books: Start at local library, asking reference people about state and county library system. Someone somewhere in that system has at least some old phone books. You'll probably have to read the whole car parts sections, as I doubt there will be a specific heading for speed.
     
  11. rotorwrench
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    I know San Antonio was kind of a hub for racing in south Texas back in the day but was by no means the only place where it was happening. Ricci Ware (pronounce like "wear")was heavy into it in the 50s - 60s and on into the 80s as far as I know and started racing at an old track near Austin Highway and Eisenhaur road back when that was out in the country. The next track was up near Topperwein & I-35 before it moved down to highway 16 on the southside. Drag strips were near an old airport on Rittiman road and then down next to the roundy roundy track on highway 16. Now they have the new track on I-10 east towards Houston. I think Ricci's son still races.

    The downtown public library would be one of the only places you can find local info after the old timers are gone.
     
  12. Aman
    Joined: Dec 28, 2005
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    from Texas

    Wow, you guys are a wealth of knowledge on this subject. This is going to be an interesting project but an research like this takes a lot of book work and library time. I used to research old shipwrecks when I was in college, I was obsessed with finding the mother lode, so I'm familiar with that part of it. Thank you very much for your help and if anyone has any further information please feel free to p*** it on. Thanks again, Aman
     
  13. Church Key
    Joined: Nov 30, 2004
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    Drag News, from the sixties and seventies, listed speed shops and manufacturers in the back pages.
     
  14. skullcracker
    Joined: Feb 2, 2005
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    from Austin

    Spend some time visiting with Drew Williams. I'll PM ya his info. He was discussed on here a bit ago....with pictures of an awesome overhead converssion for a flatty.
     

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