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**RANT**Little bro had a bike wreck.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by JamesG, Apr 19, 2004.

  1. JamesG
    Joined: Nov 5, 2003
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    Saterday my little bro was on his bike cruizing around and enjoying the day with one of his buddies, who just happens to be a cop. They were on a fairly busy road here in town when some dumb **** of a women decides t o cut my brother off for no reason, she then came to a complete halt! The guy he was riding with has a little experience then my brother and g***ed it and went around her. My brother, not having enough experience, freaked, hit his back break and then really messed up by grabbing his front break which of course made the front tire lock throughing the bike one way and him another. He didn't have his helment on. Other than road rash he's ok except for landing on his chin which now has stiches going from one side of his chin to the other. Everything happend so fast that his buddies only consern was getting him out of the middle of the road. The ****ed up part is that the ***** drove off! We are putting an ad in the paper asking for witness's that might have seen her and her car. My little bro is now scraed of a bike and is selling everything. And his bikes pretty ****ed too. It pisses me off that this stupid women messed up not only his face, his pride and his bike, but mentally scared him for life. Any way, be carfull out there guys.
     
  2. Machinos
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    Here's hoping she gets jail time. Ugh.
     
  3. Ichoptop
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    That really ****s, sorry to hear it. I spent several months in the hospital after a simialar situation in the early 90s. The day I got out my dad trailer my bike to the hospital and made me ride it home. Thankfully I did but since getting married and whatnot have decided against purchasing another one.
     
  4. Bigums
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    I'm not trying to be a ****, but your story sure makes it sound like your brother shouldn't have been riding a bike anyway. Minimal skills combined with a lack of a helmet are asking for trouble. Granted, the woman probably should get an *** kickin', but there's a lot of responsibility inherent in riding a 2 wheeled target. I've been down a few times and hit once. That's the nature of the game. There's an old saying, "There are two types of bikers, those who have been down and those who have YET to go down."

    At any rate, I hope your bro heals up well and gets back on the horse. Tell him to keep his head up.
     
  5. 58villager
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    I am an avid chopper freak with many close call's ,even been down a few times. I just lost a friend a few months ago in Houston to a broad on a cell phone. And another friend got ****-whacked on his dresser buy a chick on a phone.Frank came out O.K. he had some road rash a few stiches and a jacked up scoot.We keep ridin. Please tell your bro if it's something he love's don't give it up.Putter around the neighborhood for a while until he gets his confidence back. There are alot of drivers that are conscious of bikes but there are more that are not.Just remember watch for them cuz chances are they ain't watchin for you.Don't give up what you love because 1 person had a dumb*** attack.When your # is up it don't matter if you are on a bike in a car or ridin a bus its up.
     
  6. manyolcars
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    Its a good thing that he wasnt wearing a helmet. The added weight of a helmet can be enough to break your neck.
     
  7. Boones
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    I dont understand why the cop friend did not look at the license plate or call intot he station and put a look out on the women.. I thought they were trained to deal with hectic situations.... glad to see it was OK
     
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    Its a good thing that he wasnt wearing a helmet. The added weight of a helmet can be enough to break your neck.

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    Your jokeing right? Your skull crushing helps to absorb some of the force of the impact?
     
  9. Action Girl
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    I'm truly sorry to hear about your brother.

    I hope that if he does decide to ride again that he does it with a GOOD SNELL-RATED helmet. I'd also recommend that he takes a motorcycle safety course and maybe even that he picks up the book Proficient Motorcycling, by David L. Hough.

    It's absolutely true that there are a million idiots out there distracted by screaming kids, soccer moms on cell phones, and various other oblivious people. The best defense is a good offense... ride like everyone out there is gonna try to kill you and wear appropriate gear just in case the worst happens. Even though I only ride a scooter (150cc's) I still wear a kevlar jacket, boots and full face helmet. I love to ride, but like my face where it currently resides even more.

    Taking a safety course and picking up that book will not only help your brother regain his confidence and get back on the bike, but will also provide him with valuable skills that he needs for the next time it happens (and chances are there WILL be a next time).

    Be careful out there!

    Stacey
     
  10. i know how it feels..
     
  11. JamesG
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    [ QUOTE ]
    I'm not trying to be a ****, but your story sure makes it sound like your brother shouldn't have been riding a bike anyway. Minimal skills combined with a lack of a helmet are asking for trouble. Granted, the woman probably should get an *** kickin', but there's a lot of responsibility inherent in riding a 2 wheeled target. I've been down a few times and hit once. That's the nature of the game. There's an old saying, "There are two types of bikers, those who have been down and those who have YET to go down."

    At any rate, I hope your bro heals up well and gets back on the horse. Tell him to keep his head up.

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    I agree with everything you just said. He jumped in with both feet, which I was and still am proud of him for, but like everyone knows it's the other people you have to watch out for. More experience and he could have avoided it.

    With the helmet, it should have been on his head and not hanging off of his sissy bar like it was. Arkansas doean't have a healmet law so you see tons of guys wanting to look cool rining with out helmets. Hell there's yuppie bikers everywere in shorts and tank tops!

    The deal with his cop buddy is a tough call. He most definantly wanted this womens head on a stick, but all he could think about was his bro laying face down in the middle of the road not moving with traficc headed straight for them. The real ****ter is that when his buddy jump off his bike and ran over to him, my little bro jumps up full of adrenaline bleeding like a stuck hog and ask's "Man is my bike ok?"!!!! He's one tough ****. [​IMG]


    I'm going to have a hear to heart with him once the dust settles and p*** along youe guy's advice. Matter of fact, this will make a better rider than he ever would have been had this not have happended. But should he decide not to get back on and ride again I will respect that. The stess our Mom has been under since he bought has been really tough for me to watch.

    Thanks everyone for your thought's and input.
     
  12. 58villager
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    I'm gonna have to go with action girl the motorcycle safety course is a winner. I've been building choppers since I was 16.We won't go into how long ago that was but a friend of mine took the Texas M.S.C.to get her licence and loved it. Her husband (older than me) and I had been teaching her to ride and m/c safety as we knew it when she decided to take this cl***.We tend to be more agressive when a car cuts us off.But when it was all said and done she was teaching us.As for the helmets I say let those ride decide.Helmets are like any safety device it depends on the situation whether it is a help or a henderence.
    Jerry 58villager
     
  13. burndup
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    My riding gear cost more than my first viable bike... I need to buy more. I have a ****y-as-Ned Flanders BRIGHT yellow FULL-FACE helmet. I'm too damn good looking to end up like the "sausage creature"*** So I can tolerate looking like a ****. **** it, I've scored more lately being all sweaty and with helmet hair than I have when cleaned up and dressed nice. If you're out on a bike to "look cool" or try to "be cool," you'd better take out a big life insurance policy...

    I ride with the mentality that everyone on the road are quite possibly ****ing ***hole ***********s who want to make me dead with their 1 ton weaponry, and are mustering up the balls to pull it off. That way I'm anticipating their ****, waiting for them to make their first offensive move. It seems to be working. Does that at***ude detract from the fun? **** no.

    They tell you to keep a 2 second following distance, I never get that close unless I can see "thru" the car ahead of me and like what I see.

    The part that I hate is I can't ride half the time I leave home, cause I know I'll be helping destroy a case of beer, and "good enough" to drive a car and "good enough" to hop on a bike are two completely ****ing different things.

    I've been down and down hard PLENTY of times on dirt, I'm hoping that has helped my odds a little on the street.

    Your little bro was EXTREMELY lucky this time.


    ***song of the sausage creature:

    http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html

     
  14. Sam F.
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Its a good thing that he wasnt wearing a helmet. The added weight of a helmet can be enough to break your neck.

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    i completely disagree with this,,,even tho im the BIGGEST HIPOCRITE about helmets...

    i hate wearing them,,but i think its STUPID not to wear them,,. there are lots of times when i dont,,,like when just headed over to a freinds etc,,those are the WORST times,,when something can happen.. like i said,im a HYPOCRIITE...but i trip out when i see NEWBIES( and you KNOW who they are just by looking) riding bikes with out helmets..its bad enuff people who have been riding for a while are taking there chanes,,but when you see someone who cant ride ,,and they have no HELMET,... its asking for trouble...

    i should add ,my FIRST time i wrecked on a bike i WAS wearing a helmet,,and if i WASNT wearing that helmet i probably wouldnt even be here right now...i still have that old helmet with a HUDGE chunk of material missing from it that coulda been my head....


    also,,unless 1loadeliverys bro was wearing a FULL FACE,,i dont think his chin would have a chance either way

    hope your bros alright load!
     
  15. JamesG
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    Thanks ****!
    And yea it was a full face...........the little knuckle head. [​IMG]
     
  16. gotcha
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    [ QUOTE ]
    I dont understand why the cop friend did not look at the license plate or call intot he station and put a look out on the women.. I thought they were trained to deal with hectic situations....

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    Rookies....
     
  17. deadelvis
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    [ QUOTE ]
    [ QUOTE ]
    I dont understand why the cop friend did not look at the license plate or call intot he station and put a look out on the women.. I thought they were trained to deal with hectic situations....

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    Rookies....

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    Yeah, he probably forgot his big letter "S" and cape too!
     
  18. WZ JUNK
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    Slid my bike of 14 years down last fall. I have owned a lot of bikes but I kept this one through the years.

    I sold it last month.

    Put my money into something safe, a drag car.

    Hope he heals quick.
     
  19. marq
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    I have been a motorcyclist for 23 years on the road but with my off road riding 27 years.In the uk riding a motorcycle is highly dangerous,small twisty lanes and badly set out roads along with large pot holes are bad enough let alone people using mobile phones whilst reading the paper and eating a sandwhich whilst driving.Over here you take a car/bike test and thats it for life.Anyway my point is i have has a good few accidents and a couple quite bad and still i ride my bike,i love my bike and nothing will deter me.If i am so destined to be killed or crippled on a motorcycle there and a thing i can do about it but until then i am gonna enjoy the freedom of it.Experience is only gained through riding and you have to ride through traffic and be put in different situations before you are really safe sometimes people don't make it but most do.Tell your brother not to be put off too much,to get a full faced helmet and some good riding gear and maybe he will feel safer and therefor ride with more confidence......tell him good luck...........Marq
     
  20. Jester
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    Sorry to hear of the acident but he is a fact about bike riders: There are two kinds of Bike Riders those who have laid the bike down and those who havn't YET. Give him some time he'll go back someday prolly soon. The only riders I've met who have had acidents that never went back to riding are those who nealy died from injuries.
     
  21. marq
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    i nearly died and went back ,i know i'm a dumb *** but i am a ****er for a cycle...........Marq
     
  22. junk runner jr
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    Very timley post for me. I am picking up my first bike this weekend while I am at Carlisle. I close friend from Canada is loaning me one of his bikes to learn on. The only stipulation was that I have to take the rider safety course. Here in Ohio the three day cl*** only costs $25. My insurance gives a heafty discount for completing the course as well.

    Hope your brother heals up quickly, and is able to get over the trauma. My father was an avid rider for many many years. One small accident and he could not bring himself to ride any more. He sold his bike about twenty years ago and has not been on one since. I always thought it would be nice to go riding with him but I don't think that will ever happen now.
     
  23. famous59
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    I hope all is well. What i dont understand is that some people say he should not ahve been riding with minimal skill. Well how is a rider going to get skill if he does not ride. Anyway I wish him well, I hope he lands the chick in jail.
     
  24. Hope your bro. heals up quick-like.

    I sold my 56' Victoria and just bought a reeeeaaaaalllly low mileage 63' Pan Head. Although I squelched at the idea initially, I plunked down 500 bones for a Vanson jacket knowing full-well that I'll be sliding down the rd. sooner or later. It's strange that this is just a given...but it is what it is. If you go into it understanding that I think you're better off.
     
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    knowing full-well that I'll be sliding down the rd. sooner or later.

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    There's a smart boy.

    1LOWDELIVERY- I'm glad it's just a few s***ches. If it were worse, I'd feel bad saying this, but it's his own fault.

    Every SINGLE time you get on a bike, traffic, deer, inertia, speed and gravity are trying to beat you... and they WILL win. No amount of experience or luck will prevent it.
    It's Russian Roulette, baby.

    Say he would have hit her. Who would have been at fault and got the ticket? Him.
    The person in the back is responsable. Not that it's right, but it's the rule.
    Don't blame the ol' lady... unless she brake-checked him, deliberately.
    Don't blame the bike... that would be like sueing Colt because some crackhead blew away your gramma in a 7-11 robbery with one.

    He's the one, man. He made the "adult" choice to get on it, ride it, and crash it.

    Like I said... I'm glad he's Okay, but... them's the breaks.

    Just don't come back in a month and tell us he's dead... alright?

    I should add... I've had bikes... lots of 'em.
    Crashed every one of 'em, at one time or another.
    Never blamed anyone...
    I, also, spent alot of time rebuilding wrecked Jap touring bikes, that dad and I would pick up at insurance auctions.
    Some bikes had meat and hair hangin' off 'em and some had police "evidence" tags on 'em. Lotsa guys died so I could have their "pride and joy" for $276.00 at an auction.
    75% of 'em were crushed in the front. Couldn't stop.
    All that weight and only two contact patches with the road... *SPLAT*!!!
    One bike, with the forks smashed into the radiator, had hit so hard, that the denim pattern from the guys blue jeans was pressed into the paint on the tank.
    I'd tear these bikes down to the frame... straighten and weld 'em... put 'em back together (with all new plastic) and my way of telling myself they were safe enough to re-sell was to run 'em up to 100-120mph and let go of the bars. If I didn't die, I sold it.... for blue-book.
    Sure, it's unfortunate that those guy got hurt or killed, and that I profited from it... well the profit part isn't unfortunate... but the fact is, I had nothing to do with THEIR choice...

    I hope I don't sound cold, but people need to take responsability for the choices they make.


    JOE[​IMG]
     
  26. JamesG
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    Junkyard, I agree with everything you said but one thing......she did do a break check on purpose. Niether one of them can figure why she did it? Road rage? Don't like bikers? Who knows, but it was deliberate.
     
  27. nailheadmerc
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Just remember watch for them cuz chances are they ain't watchin for you.Don't give up what you love because 1 person had a dumb*** attack.When your # is up it don't matter if you are on a bike in a car or ridin a bus its up.

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    i hope your brother heals up quickly. he will probably be back up and riding soon. hopefully a little time will help with the aftershock. doug
     
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    ......she did do a break check on purpose....but it was deliberate.

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    Well, then it's okay to pop a cap in her ***.


    JOE[​IMG]
     
  29. Deyomatic
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Junkyard, I agree with everything you said but one thing......she did do a break check on purpose. Niether one of them can figure why she did it? Road rage? Don't like bikers? Who knows, but it was deliberate.

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    How can you say that? You don't know what she might have thought she saw. I'm not saying you are lying, but there is no way you can say 100% that she did it deliberately. She might have seen an animal or kids on the side of the street, she might have thought she saw brake lights ahead. It is a reflex that you can't shut off. There is no way you can say that she TRIED to cause this, HOWEVER the ***** should go to jail or have to pay for some kind of hit and run crime.

    As an example, I know of many times I've been driving with friends of mine IN MY CAR and seen animals almost scurry out in front of me so I hit the brakes, whoever I'm riding with always gets pissy, "What was THAT for?" As if they are the KING of driving and if they didn't see it then it wasn't there. My friends should know by now that if I'm hitting the brakes hard, it is for a reason.
     
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    In the uk riding a motorcycle is highly dangerous,small twisty lanes and badly set out roads along with large pot holes are bad enough let alone people using mobile phones whilst reading the paper and eating a sandwhich whilst driving.

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    Oh hell yes... I got taken out in Edgware by a guy who saw a 'parking place' and did the left turn, no signal, as I am p***ing move on my...Killed the bike...... I was ok.

    Previous time, was on a loaner as mine was in the shop, woke up in hospital..Triple fracture to the left shoulder, 9 inch dislocation of left arm and a broken thumb!

    I, like Marq, still ride.

    My motto...

    ATGATT All The Gear, All The Time. Yep, it gets hotter n hell here in the summer, but I would rather be hot and alive...

    Hope your brother isn't put off biking, it can be a wonderful thing.

    [​IMG]

     

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