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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by fitzee, Apr 21, 2004.

  1. fitzee
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    Found this car this past weekend and it had almost a complete engine in it.Not up on my early Fords so what I would like to know is what is it.Here is a pic of the engine as well as the back of the car it was in,Or should I say the remains of a car. [​IMG]

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  2. fitzee
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    Also see if you can ID this one too.Don`t know if any part on these engines are worth going after.

    fitzee

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  3. BELLM
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    Back end of car looks like 60 or 62 Ford, looks like Ford engine of that era also. 352? Fuzzy memory, need to get off this *#^$@&%# thing and go to sleep!!!.
     
  4. Top one is a FE motor, 352 or 390, depending upon the year. The mess it's in is either a '60 or '61, can't remember which.

    Damn CRS. [​IMG]
     
  5. Hey Fitz; the car is a 1960 Ford(was it a 2 dr?)just adding salt!! [​IMG]
    Seeing that it's a canuk car it could be a 352 or one of those dam 312's [​IMG]or a 390,Ford canada could never make up there minds [​IMG]
     
  6. Deyomatic
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    Neither one is a 312, unless it's another Canadian thing...
    They both seem to have the distributor on the front of the engine. Also, in the second pic, this intake has too many runners to be a Y block, the Y block only had 2 on each side, or 4 "legs" and the runners are stacked one on top of the other in each "leg."
     
  7. fitzee
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    I was thinking the first one is a 390 but unsure.As for the second one is interesting.Never seen one before.The 4 barral is different as well.Are them 390`s or 352,which ever it is any good for a rod?

    fitzee
     
  8. BELLM
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    352 & 390 good torquey engines. Used to see some pretty fast heavy Fords with 390s back in the 60s, I rebuilt a few 352s back in those days but neither would be my first choice for a hot rod engine today. Besides, those look pretty rough, would be expensive to rebuild.
     
  9. AV8Paul
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    Seems to me there was also a 332 FE. I'm thinking maybe came out in 1959.
     
  10. The first one is an FE of whatever displacement. That second engine is not an FE. The push rods don't go through the intake. There seems to be a water passage and outlet siamesed wtih the front intake runners.
    I dunno on that one.
     
  11. fitzee
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    Well the second one got me puzzled.When looking at it closely The intake is something like the mopar intakes,If you look closely above the carb you can see a clamp of some sort.this is what the intake is bolted down with.I`m wondering Would it ba a early Pontiac??

    fitzee
     
  12. Bigcheese327
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    How bad are the valve covers and aircleaner on the FE? I love period accessories like that and my FE is from '74, so it lacks them.

    On the second one, for some reason I want to say International Harvester truck engine but I don't know...
     
  13. Deyomatic
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    The intake manifold in the second pic looks exactly like the one my V8 book shows for Ford MEL series, but the distributor was not in the front.
    I'm guessing it is some kind of "orphan" engine.
     
  14. fitzee
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    This is interesting.I`m going to have to go back and take some more pics.Nothing worse then not know what something is.

    fitzee
     
  15. Deyomatic; here's something you dont hear often on this board........and it hurts!! [​IMG]but....."i was wrong"
    it's not a 312,at first glance and what i know of the 60 Fords up here,i just guessed at what might be in the car???
    this is me humbled!! [​IMG]
     
  16. Andy
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    I'm thinking the engine in the second picture is a Lincoln. I think it is a 430" Lincoln from about 1961 or so. Lets here some more guesses!
     
  17. mr.midnite
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    the backend is definitely a '60 Ford. That said, it would have come with either a 292 (185 h.p.) or a 352 (235, 300, or 360 h.p. which is really quite rare).
     
  18. The car is a 1960 Ford, if the eng is the orig, it should be a 332. I used to "Smoke" those dudes with my 350 horse, tri power 348 with a 4 speed and 4:56s, 60 Chevy. [​IMG] <font color="red"> </font>
     
  19. Kaucher
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    That's a Ford 292-312 Y-block truck motor. The ram style exhaust manifolds are truck only.KK
     
  20. Andy
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    Never saw a Y block with intakes seperated like that!
     
  21. SKR8PN
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    First engine is definately an early FE......
    Second one looks like a ......
    don't laugh......
    STUDEBAKER. [​IMG]
     
  22. mr.midnite
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    the 332 was discontinued in '60. After seeing the rear of the car my first guess would have been a 292 in there, but that is not a Y-block in front. I do not know how different things were for a Canadian model as far as different motors.
     
  23. Kaucher
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    Studebaker's have the distributor in in the back, Ramblers have the distributors angled off the timing case. Also that motor has an Autolite carb on it. I could be wrong it's not a very easy pic to read.KK
     
  24. Deyomatic
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    Y's have a dizzy in the back, too, my man...trust me, I have to deal with it every time I check the points. There are too many runners to be a Y block.
     
  25. 56olds-ERDY
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    i know a guy who has one of those in the second pic.i did some reseach on it a while back.i found out what it was,but now i cant remember for sure.... [​IMG] i could have swore it was a mel motor.i wish i could remember.heres the pic of his if i can get it to show up.heres a link that lists some stuff to identify ford motors better.
    http://www.fordclassics.com/enginespecs.html

     

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  26. fitzee
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    That is the same engine,other then it is a 2 barrel.Looking closely at both pics you can see the same parts.Now we have 2 pics!!and we still are not sure of what it is.

    fitzee
     
  27. Fat Hack
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    First engine is a 332/352/390 FE engine

    Second engine is a 430 Lincoln

    What do I win??? [​IMG]

    (I thought there was a joke running here...with all the wild guesses! [​IMG] [​IMG])

     
  28. Jeff Norwell
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    [ QUOTE ]
    That's a Ford 292-312 Y-block truck motor. The ram style exhaust manifolds are truck only.KK

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    I dont know about that engine being a 312(the dist. is sitting at the front) but them ram horn manifolds are worth a buck or two....Fitzee.git yer shovel!

     
  29. Fat Hack
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    The valve covers, intake, and water pump design on the engine sitting in the dirt gave it away as a Lincoln V8 (Most likely a 430) at a glance.

    My eyes aint that great, but the motor still in what's left of that car appears to be a garden variety FE.

    Kinda hard to mix up Ford V8s...they're all blessed with unique characteristics!

     
  30. 56olds-ERDY
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    yeah i feel dumb now.lincoln came to mind too,but hell shit goes through the eyes in the brain,and out the ass.
    that one in the ground looks preety rough.i dont know if i would tackle such a ordeal.anyone here run one of these?im just curious.
    eric
     

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