Attn: Canadians! Bill 203

This is*********. I'm moving south.

 

time for a regime change.

 

In the words of the immortal Al Bundy. Can't live with em, can't kill em.

 

That is absofuckinglutely crazy!!!! Thought we'd be able to steer clear of this***** up here but I guess I was wrong. Really hope they don't try to implement this country wide, or at least the western provinces don't adopt this theroy.

 

Its time for you to stand up and fight for a reasonable settlement on this.........or let the nazi youth take away your rights

 

that's stupid

ironic that they would reference Uncle Sam...

 

The only real way to fight it is to sue the police officer personally when they impound your car (for the fees, lost wages, etc) and bring into the court the fact that this PROVENCIAL statute does not meet the standard set by the CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS. It violates sections 7 through 11. A police officer is protected by the police services act when acting as a police officer and enforcing just and legally correct laws. If the law is not good, the police office is NOT protected and is open to personal litigation for his/her actions.

A decent lawyer will get this bumped up to a judge pretty much immediately with a Charter challenge. Skip the JP's...they are pretty useless in a situation like this.

This is the backdoor way of having the law invalidated. You need to get a judge to say in court that this law is in fact illegal, and the province of ontario does not have the authority to create a law that circumvents the Charter of Rights and freedoms.

BTW - the statements the attorney general said do not actually agree with the powers imparted by the bill. He did make those statements, but the police were not granted those powers.

 

They are going to wait till a cop gets beat up or killed before the law will change.

Anyone have the SEMA Canada contact info? I would like to see if we can get something going to stop this BS.

 

Wow! That's really not good. Why overstepping any rational thought. That's areal slippery slope kind fo legislation.

I went and looked at your charter or rights. How couldthey possibly pass this and have it meet any legal challenge?

 

Viva La Revolution

 

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For the unknowing among us.....

Section 7: right to life, liberty, and security of the person.
Section 8: right from unreasonable search and seizure (only if the authorities believe someone is a threat to another, to society or to themselves, is such a search justified).
Section 9: freedom from arbitrary detainment or imprisonment.
Section 10: The right to legal counsel and the guarantee of habeas corpus.
Section 11: rights in criminal and penal matters such as the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty.

 

Drunk driving is a bigger problem than street racing,
but they don't arrest people walking out of the Liquor Store
because they "might" drink and drive.

 

Once again we see political B.S boil down to the common person. Street racing is nasty, and it needs to stop. But banning cars that are modified? Well what the christ are they going to do with the rich kids who have porsches or vettes, vipers or ither big dollar rollers?

Joe politician is tryin to appease the public and forgets we are the public.... send an e-mail and tell them we are voting the*****ers out of office. We are not the problem. Not only will they kill our lifestyle they will screw thousands of people out of work.

I tell you one thing for sure, aint no one impounding my car. The news headline will be much worst than "hot rod impounded".

I remember in the 80's the t-shirt that read "skateboarding is not a crime"......well the times are changing. Hot Rodding is not a crime! Do they forget the positive impact we have on people? You dont see a**** pirate crack head owning a Hot Rod.

Contact "THE MAN" and tell them we impound their**** out of office.


Jeff can you do us some art work.............. Hot Rodding is not a crime....think before you ink? We can print it off and send it to our local "MAN" how sits in a plush seat thanks to our vote.

Leon

 

This has me P'd off and thinking..........they wanna stop street racing ban the damn Jap cars, if it wasnt for the fast and furious movies this trouble wouldnt be an issue. I see civics ripping every day with the pretty aluminum wing bolted on the trunk.

This is not a good thing.................... And remember silence is deadly

 

this is insane. I can't belive the***** they are trying to pull

 

I'm not sure how anyone can really be surprised that "our" politicians would try pulling this type of*****.
One need only look to how firearm owners are treated in this country to see the path we're heading down.

That said, seeing as how every other vehicle here is a diesel truck with a 6" lift, exhaust, 37" tires and a performance chip...I really can't see this passing.

 

so, who ACTUALLY has their finger on the pulse of Ontario politics, and can honestly say what chance this bill actually has of even passing?

note at the beginning of the article, it just says this is a bill, it hasn't passed yet. it only takes a couple of people to introduce a bill, it takes a majority to pass and become law.

the sky isn't falling yet, this is just a bill proposing that the sky may fall. call up your reps or whatever and see where they stand on this.

 

"172. (1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle on a highway in a race or contest while performing a stunt or on a bet or wager"

So if I dare a police officer to pull me over, is he in the wrong?

This is some very serious stuff, this is happening BECAUSE there is an election coming, and due to some recent incidents in T.O. it will be sure to get them lots key votes in some very key ridings. We need to get in contact our MPPs and let them know how we feel, hell, even invite them out to the local shows, show them that we are not all street racers.
Hey Graverobber, next Autowonderland show maybe you can toast them some hotdogs off the Rivs flamethrowers

 

It passed. It was rammed through the process in record time just before the summer break.

I am trying to find out who my MPP is so I can see which way he/she voted and maybe strongly voice my discontent. I also will get everyone I know to NOT vote for them if they voted for this abomination.

 

Someone, anyone, everyone needs to fill for an injunction collectively calling the legality of the legislation into question and baring the implementation of the new law.

A class action lawsuit (same name in Canadian legal system?) against the Gov't for this may be in order. And appears to have real merit.

 

haha

 

I think your missing something here mate. They can destroy your car if IT LOOKS like it was built to race.

 

They can't destroy your car.

What they can do is impound it for 7 days along with a 7 day licence suspension AND YOU HAVE NO RECOURSE.

Basically this law allows the cops to take your car for a week, and suspend you licence for a week, and you never go to court, you never get a ticket, and there is no clear concise requirements as to what constitutes the crime. It is basically whatever the police officer feels that day constitutes a car modified for street racing. Here in toronto, the impound lot storage fees are $140 a day x 7 days. Plus you have to pay all the fees to get your licence reinstated. You will be well over $1000 in fees and YOU HAVE NO RECOURSE.

"Hey, those rims are not stock! STREET RACER! Say goodbye to your car for a week! And while you are at it, gimme that licence!"

And imagine what your insurance will do when they are notified that you have had your licence suspended on streetracing. Goodbye insurance, and good luck trying to get it anywhere else for a price you can afford. You are right into facility insurance = $$$$$.

The law doesn't meet the tenents of fundamental justice, in that you don't get to face your accuser, and that it does not clearly spell out the crime. This law violates canadians rights as spelled out in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms which is the highest law in the land.

This law short circuits the canadian legal system in that you are punished without a trial, and that you have zero recourse. This law brings the administration of justice into disrepute and should have never made a second reading, let alone be voted into law.

 

First you let them***** on gun owners now it's cars, you can continue to allow this to happen or All work together to get back your rights.

 

thast stupid. its just like racial profileing. just becasue it looks like a racer car doesnt mean it is. its the same concept. you should be able to file an injunction merely on the basis that the law was put into effect so quickly. thus allowing***** little time for public review. there has to be some way to get around this or have the law revoked.

 

That's Canada for you. Unfortunately, it's also what America is headed for because most sheeple don't know and don't care.

Based on this law, no one could modify their car, at least not in a visible manner, a stone stock Geo Metro with mag wheels and a fancy paint job is bait to get siezed even though you could probably outrun it on foot... but you can put a super turbo motor and a little bit bigger tires in one of these imports and leave the outside bone-stock and who would know? Just leave the fart can in the john.

You'd think these idiots would have some regard for the economic factor. That's a lot of people who spend a lot of money to a lot of companies who employ more people. Are those companies supposed to all cease doing business in Canada and fire everyone? So much as a magnetic flame decal could get your car siezed, so you can't build a hot rod of any stripe anymore. Hell, probably having the wrong bumper sticker could get it siezed, that law is so vague. So if no one can modify their cars, these stores and companies lose business and lay people off. Gee, guess we didn't think about that. ********es.

 

It does seems unlikely that something of this nature would be introduced here in Alberta, but I can see the Ontario decision leading to a push for similar legislation on a federal level.

What can those of us in the West do about this, if anything? Is there a nationwide organization that can resist this bill?