Register now to get rid of these ads!

on the ground. customs in the day

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 40oz., Aug 15, 2007.

  1. i have a question for all you grey beards about customs. in the day, say late 50s, when the tail draggers, mild custom and full custom guys dropped their cars on the floor did they have any means to raise them back up? air shocks? air springs? or did they just drag? i was born in 65, and in alabama, hot rods were the **** as i was coming up. i didnt discover customs till my mom made me watch rebel with out a cause. i dont remember dean flickin any switches. im not trying to start any ****, i would like to know cause if im grinding my pipes and quarters for nothing i would like to know.
     
  2. Cshabang
    Joined: Mar 30, 2004
    Posts: 2,458

    Cshabang
    Member

    I'm only 27, but in a lot of my "little pages" and in a lot of the books on customs..it seems like casters mounted under the cars were popular...as were dragged flat tailpipes
     
  3. JamesG
    Joined: Nov 5, 2003
    Posts: 5,249

    JamesG
    Member

    I didn't know that they "dropped their cars on the floor" back then. Not until hydro's were envented.

    As far as I know, how ever low they were, thats how they drove them.
     
  4. hotrod1940
    Joined: Aug 2, 2005
    Posts: 4,064

    hotrod1940
    Member

    in 1956 Bill Hines heated my front springs with a torch and I put 4" lowering blocks in the back. This was pretty much accepted practice. It rode like a lumber wagon and I was very careful with the slightest bumnp in the road, but I was cool. I had Jimmy Jones bubbles on the back and could just place a pack of cigarettes sideways under the skirts. That was probably why Bill Hines began to develop hydraulics.
     
  5. ryno
    Joined: Oct 6, 2005
    Posts: 3,469

    ryno
    Member

    alot of early hyro set ups came from airplane wings and landing gear from surplus military yards in socal
     
  6. teddyp
    Joined: May 28, 2006
    Posts: 3,195

    teddyp
    Member

    i had my frist full custom that i completed in 1962 and alot that never got done my 57 chevy [god i loved that car] had cut coils in front and 3 in lowing blocks in the back if you went any lower you would tunnel the drive shaft ,c,ed the frame and put casters on the back for going up driveways i did this around 64 when this was not my only car but 3 in,s was the most i could go when i drove it everyday:cool:
     
  7. where did you mount the castors? were the out of sight?
     
  8. teddyp
    Joined: May 28, 2006
    Posts: 3,195

    teddyp
    Member

    found some pictures of the 57 3,ins lowerd :cool:
     

    Attached Files:

  9. Chili Phil
    Joined: Jan 15, 2004
    Posts: 7,597

    Chili Phil
    Member

    We just lived with it. I knew which gas stations I could use, that I had to come in the rear entrance at the Bellflower A&W and that my Chevy rode like ****. My moms lived on a dirt road in Littlerock Cal, and I had to park on the paved street and walk a block to her house. And we didn't get any breaks from the cops. I even got a too low ticket on the way home from the hospital the night my dad died, with moms in the car. After that I took the 14"s off the car. Pipes were ground flat. Front springs were heated and the rears had lowering blocks and crudely heated leafs. There was a high price for coolness then (1966-68).
     
  10. keep it comin! this is what i wanted to hear.
     
  11. SaltCityCustoms
    Joined: Jun 27, 2007
    Posts: 1,212

    SaltCityCustoms
    Member

    teddyp, that is one cool looking 57 and I am not a fan of 57's
     
  12. 40StudeDude
    Joined: Sep 19, 2002
    Posts: 9,562

    40StudeDude
    Member

    Casters were mounted to the rear bumper...at the bottom edge...guys used to have to change them several times over the course of the summers. They drilled one hole on the bottom side of the bumper (both corners) and bolted them on with only one nut...the casters back then were made of some type of metal...but the constant grinding in and out of driveways eventually destroyed them...the hardware store in my town used to make sure they had
    plenty.

    We also used something called "****ers" on the front coils---these were nothing more than an oversized "J" hook,with threads on the end...slip 'em up in the coil, drop the threaded end thru a hole in the A-arm, add nuts and tighten, pulled the coils together, effectively ****ing (lowering) the front of the car down...but it rode like hell.

    Ah well, that was the price you paid for looking cool.

    R-
     
  13. teddyp
    Joined: May 28, 2006
    Posts: 3,195

    teddyp
    Member

    thanks i wish i could find better pictures of it i know i have somewhere
     
  14. Crestliner
    Joined: Dec 31, 2002
    Posts: 3,033

    Crestliner
    Member

    In 60 I had a 52 chevy convertible with a Olds engine. Heated the coils and 2" blocks on the rear. Had a rack and rode like hell, but it was cool.
     
  15. Chili Phil
    Joined: Jan 15, 2004
    Posts: 7,597

    Chili Phil
    Member

    And man, I can't count the number if times I had to back out of places because I got hung up. One of the tricks I used was to go to the Sheriff's station on a rainy night and lie about having raised up my car. The lazy cops would sign my too low ticket off, rather than go out in the rain.
     
  16. twochops
    Joined: Feb 28, 2006
    Posts: 1,510

    twochops
    Member

    Cement blocks---here's a story that I wrote for the KOA,
    based on a true story. T.C.
    ----------------LEFT CLICK TO ENLARGE
     

    Attached Files:

  17. SHIPFITTER1955
    Joined: Jul 6, 2007
    Posts: 27

    SHIPFITTER1955
    BANNED
    from wyo

    you sound pretty cool man.....dont listen to all this ******** about air this and mustang 2 that....
     
  18. kustombuilder
    Joined: Sep 18, 2002
    Posts: 7,750

    kustombuilder
    Member
    from Novi, MI



    that is wild that you say that cause a couple years ago i worked with a guy who was Jimmy Jones' son-in-law. i'd never heard of him before that but after this guy and i got to talking about customs at work one day, and he told me about his pappy-in-law, i'd started to notice his name here and there. mainly on the HAMB.
     
  19. terrarodder
    Joined: Sep 9, 2005
    Posts: 1,101

    terrarodder
    Member
    from EASTERN PA

    Back in 53 I had a 41 Ford coupe with 6 in. lowering shackles and a tourch spring from an old stock car. One night we got pulled over, there was a robbery on the east side and they though I had a safe in the trunk. True story.
     
  20. Sam F.
    Joined: Mar 28, 2002
    Posts: 4,225

    Sam F.
    BANNED

    yeah,,but that was late 50's.....

    even though back then .most where either close to or ridding on the bumpstops,,, back then they werent nowhere like they are nowadays,,,,,,


    ,,nowadays its all a mini trucker menality to see who can get lower....
     
  21. notebooms
    Joined: Dec 14, 2005
    Posts: 2,077

    notebooms
    Alliance Member

    folks began doing hydraulics on customs in the late 1950's.

    while cadillac came out with airbags in the 1950's, i'd be interested in learning more about how early folks began using them as a modification meant to lower the car significantly from stock. anybody have any history on this?

    -scott noteboom
     
  22. Yeah.. I've seen mention in some of the older magazines of using the airbags. Most of those early systems weren't very reliable, though.
     
  23. mortecai
    Joined: Mar 10, 2001
    Posts: 263

    mortecai
    Member

    Many of 48 chev and fords were lowered using the heat the front coils till the bumper rested on the block you used for a height gauge. Then finding the longest U-Bolts you could, to strap lowering blocks on the rear. I did see a lot of rear bumpers that had casters on them to keep from dragging in or out of a drive-in.
     
  24. Moonglow2
    Joined: Feb 4, 2007
    Posts: 663

    Moonglow2
    Member

    In the late 50's Rod & Custom ran an article using known weights in the trunk of a car to determine the spring deflection rate. Heated coils and lowering blocks were the standard fare as well as the weight in the trunk trick. Radically lowered cars had the frame C'd at the rear and casters added near the rear bumper. The Hirohata Merc was the first set I remember in use. All of them rode like a buckboard.

    During my research I came across another mid 50's R&C article that touted the possibilities of air springs. As part of the 50th anniversary celebration of General Motors in 1958 the Cadillac & Buick models had an air suspension option. Within months the word on the street was they were full of problems and road failures. I think GM recalled them for coilspring retrofits.

    The May 2005 issue of Rod & Custom features a 55 Buick originally owned by Ray Abendroth. After an initial round of modifications in the late 50s he had the car reworked radically. Ray Aguirre had just built his bubble-topped Corvette "X'Sonic" equipped with the first set of hydraulics. Ray had him install the second set on the Buick and dubbed it the "Busonic" and won a lot of trophies in the 62 show circuit season.
     
  25. Rikster
    Joined: Dec 10, 2004
    Posts: 5,795

    Rikster
    Member

    [​IMG]


    Paul Kelly Photo at Paso somewhere in the 90's...

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]


    Russ Beckwith Photo of the recently restored Busonic....

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.