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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by The Lone Wolf, Aug 15, 2007.

  1. The Lone Wolf
    Joined: May 19, 2007
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    im looking at this buick 215 at the moment and i was wondering about soupin it up

    realistically how far would a budget of 2500 bucks get me?power wise? this is just for the engine mind

    thanks

    tom
     
  2. Flatman
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    It would probably depend on cost/ availability of parts, whether you were doing the work yourself or farming it all out to a shop.
    I did a flathead with new pistons, cam, all bearings, turned crank, dual manifold and carbs, alternator, and headers for under $2K, but did most of the work myself (just sent out the crank and the bore/hone work)

    Flatman
     
  3. The Lone Wolf
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    i will be trying to do the work myself, as much of it as possible anyway
    except the boring and honing. and some other little things but im sure i can get it done by some mates,in exchange for a few beers of course

    availability of parts ****s out here so I ll probably have to import everything from the States. hence the big budget
     
  4. Flatman
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    Yeah, shipping and duties can swell a budget obnoxiously:eek:
    Cruise the "for sale" section here, better than "that auction site".

    Flatman
     
  5. Just Gary
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    Are you constrained to using the Buick... or is max HP on a $2500 budget your goal?
     
  6. tjm73
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    A few years back I saw a TR8 race car at the STPR,Susquehanna Trail Pro Rally, and it had a mildly hotted up Rover 215. Looked like it had an Edelbrock intake carb and a cam of some sort. It sounded pretty cool leaving the starting line and sounded even better roaring through the PA woods.

    I suspect that if you do a little google work you could build a nice running 215 for your budget if you do most the work yourself.

    EDIT: Don't forget the 215 Buick is virtually (exacatly?) identical to the Rover V8's and MANY British companies makes stuff for them.
     
  7. panic
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    Except it won't produce as much power as a completely stock 350" engine for less money.
     
  8. tjm73
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    Well then that leaves more 350's for you. He isn't asking about chevy's

    Not everyone wants a sbc. Lots of guys here purposely choose to go non-chevy for the single reason of having something unique and different.
     
  9. Lucky Strike
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    I donno' seems to me he says he is just looking at the Buick for the moment, and wants to know how to squeze the most HP/Buck out....which makes this good advice. Hey, I dig Buick motors, flat heads, caddy etc. they are all way cool, but can't argue with the proposition that you get the most for the money out of a SBC and it can be just as traditional....heck, I got one in my Chevy ;-)...and a spare for the pre-war car I'm hoping to build one day.
     
  10. Fraz
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    So it won't produce between 160-240hp then huh? Cuz your "stock" 350 *might* be putting out that much on a good day.
     
  11. Dick Dake
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    www.aluminumv8.com These guys know quite a bit and even some headwork and a cam would do wonders.
     
  12. tjm73
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    The guy is in Malta. If you look up Malta you will see it is a small island Country kind of off the southern tip of Italy. May not ave a whole lot of sbc's there. Just my thoughts. Maybe he will chime in with more info.
     
  13. Dick Dake
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    Try looking around the UK for the Rover engine. Might have more part available and the interchange is pretty good for a lot of parts. Relatively cheaper shipping.
     
  14. The Lone Wolf
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    Exactly!!

    TBH,I'd love an SBC(HP is more important than being unique to me) but where am I gonna get it? I 've seen a lotta cheap engines for sale on here but the postage would probably cripple me,and that's if the seller is willing to make arrangements.

    So I'll stick with the Buick/Rover(mine is actually a Rover but i thought Buick might be more familiar to you guys)

    So anyway wanna advance a spec for that budget maybe?
    As I said I'll be doing as much of the work myself as I can.
     
  15. Stick with the Rover, and keep us posted on your project.
    A lot more people are interested than you might think.
    Kinda like jonny69
     
  16. Paul Y
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    The Rover V8 is the same basic engine. Have a look in the UK first as there are many engine builders over here that spe******e in the RV8. TVR used them for many years, even got upto about a 5L I think. I would suggest posting a tech request on the NSRA site (www.nsra.org.uk) as a lot of the guys use them in Pops etc.

    Not really my speciality but a good light weight engine with potential if you get the right advice.

    P.
     
  17. Reverend_Grimm13
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  19. sojerscraper
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    any engine responds well to things like reducing drag & getting it to breathe better, without even getting into taking the motor apart.

    get a clutch fan, build a cold air intake, try a little more spark advance, a little more fuel at the carb. these things really woke up my stock chrysler motor & barely cost me anything.
     
  20. Sawracer
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    My friend Robert owns "The Predator" V-8 hotsaw. It runs an alloy buick v 8 cause it's easier on the back per say. They can make big power. I think a stock rebuild with cam/intake and headers would push a lightweight with style.
     
  21. Reverend_Grimm13
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    I just thought of something...For those of you who hate Billet Aluminum,welcome to your worst nightmare:p
     
  22. The Lone Wolf
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    Thanks a mil guys!!! You're the BEST!!
    Now I'm off to buy this thing.

    Pity about the car it's in though.
    A Rover P6.Heavy as hell.
    And a cl***ic.Not exactly the best hot rod material.
     

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