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Ditch my split rims!?!?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Reelsnrods, Aug 16, 2007.

  1. Reelsnrods
    Joined: Jul 10, 2007
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    Reelsnrods
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    from Ack, MA

    I just got home from having a flat changed on my IH T[​IMG]ravelall. My very friendly mechanic said he loves my truck, but not a fan of my old split rims..."kinda dangerous" were his exact words. "If you have a blow out it could come apart and kill someone on the street, or worse, me fixin your next flat!". Anyway, he'll mount my tires for free if I get new wheels.

    I've read the posts and it would seem most agree that they should be replaced if getting old...mine look great....after I spray paint them once a year!

    So, is there a new wheel out there that is solid? looking like a split rim...? I'm not a big fan of the common white 5 spoke wheels.

    Thanks for any help
     
  2. Shifty Shifterton
    Joined: Oct 1, 2006
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    Believe it or not, in some states it's illegal to put tires back on em, even with the cage. A good friend who worked a 24 hour truck & ag tire service center says big, back room money exchanges hands during harvest season when a farmer needs his old equipment repaired ASAP.

    Personally, I'd look into different rims
     
  3. gearjam1
    Joined: Sep 6, 2006
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    -That sucks!! My '26 Henney has split rims...looks like I'll have to learn to do the job myself...
     
  4. whats the bolt pattern and back spacing you need?

    do a search for pete paulsen house of wheels
     
  5. Bigcheese327
    Joined: Sep 16, 2001
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    How do guys with restored '36-'39 Fords get new tires, then?

    -Dave
     
  6. RopeSeals???
    Joined: Jul 2, 2007
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    Yes, you should be able to get a solid type center rim to replace your old split rims... The GSE split rim wheels where I used to work were all converted to the later type wheel that looked ok, some could even use a hubcap...
    Stay away from those white 5 spoke wheels!
     
  7. manyolcars
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
    Posts: 9,541

    manyolcars

    It would be wonderful if there were a replacement rim for our old trucks, but there simply is not.
    Do it yourself.
    I wrap a chain continuously around the wheel thru the D-slots.
    Pay attention to the placement of the lock ring as you air it up.
    If it is in place, you are as good as can be.
    These rims have been in use since the very earliest automobiles.

    Do pay attention to what you are doing as the improperly placed lock ring can come off under pressure and kill you.
     
  8. manyolcars
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
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    manyolcars

    We get'em from Coker
     
  9. manyolcars
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
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    manyolcars

    I dont think you know about Ford Split Rims in use from the 1920s to the 1950s. There is NO replacement.

    If I am wrong, I sure would like to find out about replacement rims.
     
  10. Silhouettes 57
    Joined: Dec 9, 2006
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    My Brother's GMC 3/4 ton camper special with spilt rims rolled down a hill after the ring blew off of the left front totalling the camper, boat and the cab of the truck. See they can go at any time not just during installation. He and a couple guys were heading for a week long fishing trip, it screwed up the whole week they had planned not to mention cost a ton of money.
     
  11. Terraizer
    Joined: Jul 18, 2006
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    That T-all looks to be a 1200 3/4 ton so it should have the really large 6 lug pattern, its the same as early power wagons, Stockton Wheel has replacement solid wheels for it they aren't cheap though. Another thing to do is keep an eye out for some 17.5 solid wheels that where on some 50-60's IH trucks and Talls. Its getting really hard to even find a darn Tire shop that will even consider doing them.
     
  12. 52 HenryJ
    Joined: May 19, 2007
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    do you have snap rings or actual split rims?? split rims slip in the center ie widow makers, snap rings have a outer ring around the wheel which locks the bead?
     
  13. Reelsnrods
    Joined: Jul 10, 2007
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    Reelsnrods
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    from Ack, MA

    Thanks for the input, and the leads on getting safe replacements.
     
  14. Very possibly could be the last decision you ever make. I watched a young man die in Michigan in 1956 when the ring literally spun around him and cut him bad enough that he bled to death after going into shock before they could get him to the hospital.
     
  15. manyolcars
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
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    manyolcars


    Are you gonna quit riding in cars because someone died in a car wreck?

    Until someone shows up with a replacement, we have no alternative to using lock rings and split rings which have been used for millions of miles.
     
  16. Brandy
    Joined: Dec 23, 2004
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    Brandy
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    from Texas

    That's horseshit. If you know better then to rely on your local Wal Mart or Costco to replace your tires then you'll be fine. Look into a commercial tire shop for all of your split rim needs. Talk to them and tell them that you have split rims.

    LOTS of equipment still use them, they are HIGHLY dangerous but if you play it smart then you'll be fine.

    I work in the AG/Construction industry and we only use a commercial tire shop and only rec. them.
     
  17. No, I have been riding in cars for many years. I hope that I can keep someone from getting hurt by doing something that they don't understand. I am sure that there are people that have worked with split rims and know how to do it safely. Have at it, and I wish you luck.
    As several posters have said, split rims are dangerous, and that a fact.
     
  18. Brandy
    Joined: Dec 23, 2004
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    Brandy
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    from Texas

    Just friendly awareness. Sometimes, it takes a strong story for people to listen instead of flapping their gums.;)
     

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